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An Israeli flag is burned in front of a mosque in Tehran Friday. (AP Photo/Vahid Salemi)
Iran already has a missile armament capable of wreaking havoc, but its air, sea, and ground forces are out of date and badly in need of maintenance, according to a survey of websites devoted to military topics.
Iran owns one of the largest missile inventories in the Middle East and has developed an infrastructure capable of building missiles indigenously, according to NationMaster, a website specializing in military data and analysis.
Iran recently flight-tested the Shehab-3 missile, capable of reaching Israel, and there are reports about the development of even longer-ranged missiles. But at least two sources are not unduly alarmed.
Iran’s capabilities in missile production have kept in line with its doctrine of protection against regional threats, according to NationMaster.
Jane’s Defense Weekly agrees with this assessment:
Iran’s chemical weapons and ballistic missiles, and possibly its nuclear weapons program and biological warfare capabilities, are meant to deter opponents and gain influence in the Persian Gulf region,according to that publication–the acquisition and creation of these various weapons systems can also be seen as a response to Iran’s own experience as a victim of chemical and missile attacks during the Iran-Iraq War.
GlobalFirepower, another military statistics website, which cites the CIA as one of its sources, ranks Iran 18th in military power worldwide behind Turkey (10), Israel (11), Pakistan (15), and Egypt (17) but ahead of Saudi Arabia (24), Iraq (37), Afghanistan (40), and Lebanon (42).
According to this site, Iran’s defense budget was $6,300,000,000 and it currently has 540,000 active military personnel.
GlobalFirepower offers this catalogue of Iran’s military equipment, as of 2006:
Navy: 3 frigates, 3 submarines, 5 mine warfare craft, 140 coastal patrol craft, and 13 amphibious craft.
Army: 1,613 tanks, 640 personnel carriers, 2,010 towed artillery, 310 self-propelled guns, 876 multiple launch systems, 5,000 mortars, 75 anti-tank guided weapons, and 1.700 anti-aircraft weapons.
Air Force: 84 aircraft and 84 helicopters.
The army comprises about 350,000 men, including 220,000 conscripts, according to the Haaretz daily newspaper of Israel. The Islamic Revolutionary Guards, viewed as the most loyal guardian of the ruling system, has another 125,000 men. The army was organized into four corps in 2004 with 4 armored divisions and six infantry divisions.
Jane’s Defense Weekly estimates that Iran’s Air Force is composed of 290 combat aircraft with a high percentage of older types probably unserviceable. There could be 50 ex-US aircraft in this category plus about 40 helicopters.
A large number of Iran’s tanks are elderly British-made Centurions and US-made M-60s, according to Haaretz, and some of the tanks’ serviceability may be in doubt.
Jane’s Defense Weekly offers this overall assessment of Iran’s military:
"Iran’s armed forces are limited, despite their size, by a very poor maintenance record caused by lack of spare parts and very poor training, There is little doubt that, at the moment, Iran is not capable of presenting any credible external threat and conventional force projection is almost certainly limited to within its own borders."
But Jane’s Defense Weekly is less upbeat about the prospects of a nuclear-armed Iran:
"There remains the fear that Iran is in the process of building a nuclear capability that, if it came to fruition, would pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf region." How credible a threat is Iran’s military? October 11, 7:15 PMStaten Island Independent ExaminerJohn Signoriello
- Several sources were used in this article:
- Jane’s Defense Weekly: www.janes-defence-weekly.com
- Haaretz daily newspaper: www.haaretz.com
- NationMaster: www.nationmaster.com
- GlobalFirepower: www.globalfirepower.com
- John Signoriello can be contacted at siexaminer@yahoo.com
BEIJING — China’s rapidly modernizing air force is planning a display of its new military might for its 60th anniversary, showcasing a wide-ranging technical upgrade that has boosted its capabilities, though it still lags far behind its main rival, the United States.
The People’s Liberation Army Air Force is marking the occasion this Sunday with an aerial show and skydiving exhibition, using some of the state-of-the-art combat aircraft that have replaced hundreds of antiquated MIG fighters.
While only about 20 percent of those planes are on a level with those deployed by the West, that ratio is already double what it was five years ago, said Cheung Tai Ming, an expert on the Chinese military at the University of California, San Diego.
In another two decades, it could become the region’s dominant air force, Cheung said.
"In terms of hardware," he said, China’s air force "is making strides but still has long way to go."
China’s air force and navy have been prime beneficiaries of huge defense spending increases as the primarily land-based, defensively oriented military boosts its ability to project force far from the nation’s borders.
Tanker planes, AWACS and other support aircraft have been added to extend the reach and effectiveness of the air force’s advanced Russian Sukhoi and domestically developed J-10 fighters.
The force has more than 600,000 members and about 2,000 aircraft — making it the largest in Asia — but still far smaller than the United States Air Force fleet, which has more than 5,500 aircraft and nearly 327,500 active service personnel.
The improvements are primarily seen as augmenting the force’s key mission of protecting China’s borders and preventing formal independence for Taiwan, the self-governing island that Beijing claims as its own territory.
China’s air force is largely considered superior to Taiwan’s in both quantity and quality, while the 1,300 short and medium range missiles deployed opposite the island could deal severe blows to Taiwanese airfields and anti-aircraft defenses.
Yet planning for any conflict over Taiwan would have to factor in the possibility of intervention by the U.S., which is bound by law to help ensure the island’s defense. Under those circumstances, China’s air force would very likely be outmatched and outgunned.
The force’s key problems include a lack of actual combat experience and outdated training and tactics. Its last combat experience was in the brief 1979 war with Vietnam, in which it played a mainly symbolic role. Other woes include a lack of integration with naval and ground forces, limited surveillance and reconnoissance capabilities, and problems recruiting and retaining pilots.
In addition, China’s air force doesn’t have enough planes to mount a major airlift of equipment and supplies in either a combat or humanitarian relief operation. Troops taking part in a recent nationwide training exercise flew by commercial jet, and the lack of capacity has frustrated China’s aspirations to play a greater regional role in humanitarian relief operations.
While the air force mobilized massively to deal with last year’s Sichuan earthquake, bad weather forced the cancellation of several attempts to fly in men and equipment. A much ballyhooed mission to parachute in troops bordered on farce, requiring the better part of two days and resulting in the dropping of a mere 15 soldiers.
Flight safety is another issue. A series of disasters in recent years have led to the firing of some top officers, but intense secrecy surrounding all mishaps makes it difficult to assess the PLAAF’s record. Guards seized footage of one recent accident shot by state television, according to the cameraman, who spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of official retribution.
Sunday’s celebration is to include aerial displays by both the force’s standby J-7 fighters and the newer J-10, along with men’s and women’s teams skydiving from helicopters.
The event is the third major military display this year following an international naval review and a national day military parade featuring hundreds of tanks and other armored vehicles.
Beijing insists the events are intended only to boost public pride and confidence in the armed force, although they have also renewed concern abroad about the ultimate aims of China’s military expansion.
Such displays "underscore the rise in the country’s comprehensive national power and the firm material and technological foundation provided for air force modernization," the force’s commander Xu Qiliang told the PLA Daily newspaper in an interview published this week. China air force much improved though still lagging By CHRISTOPHER BODEEN (AP) –
The Danger by Bharat Verma
Insurrection India:India cracks map of insurgency: Naxalites, Maoists, Seven Sisters, Kashmir, Punkjab, Tamil
Very few policy makers in India dare to acknowledge the danger to the nation’s territorial integrity. The security and integrity of the nation has become hostage to vote-bank politics. Democracy and more than eight per cent economic growth will be of no avail if the country as such withers away. India is not only being frayed at its borders by insurgencies, but its very writ in the heartland is becoming increasingly questionable. The rise of a nation is predicated upon unity, peace and stability, which are essentially determined by good governance. The prevailing security scenario poses the serious question: Is India’s development and economic growth becoming unsustainable due to poor handling of the security? There are three dangers to the territorial integrity that bedevil the nation.
India danger list-1-2-3 map: The India government has identified three major areas that are a threat to the national integrity of the country
The security forces, primarily the Indian Army, have held the state of Jammu & Kashmir physically since Independence. The politicians and the bureaucrats have contributed nothing to resolve the situation. The danger has since magnified. After all the wars, export of terrorism, inconsistent and weak policies by New Delhi, Islamabad could not win Kashmir only because the Indian Army held its ground. If the ghost force succeeds in making locals (Kashmiris) rise against the Army, it will be an unprecedented achievement for Islamabad. It is a matter of grave concern that New Delhi is so prone to issue statements without thinking it through, as long as it appeases the adversary even temporarily. With China’s claim over Arunachal Pradesh becoming more strident, as evidenced by its recent stance on Tawang, the danger to the Siliguri Corridor stands enhanced. This corridor has been facing internal turmoil for many years.
Kashmir map: Kashmir is part of Pakistan. The green area is the Pakistan province of "Gilgit Baltistan" (formerly known as Norhtern Areas)
Danger-1 New Delhi and the state capitals have almost ceded the governmental control over 40 % of the Union’s territory to the Naxalites. The Naxal’s are aided and abetted by the crime mafia that runs its operations in the same corridor from Nepal to Andhra Pradesh, as well as Maoists of Nepal who in turn receive covert support from other powers engaged/interested in destabilising India. The nexus between ULFA and Maoists in Nepal is well established. In a recent attack in Chhattisgarh, Maoists of India and Nepal were co-participants. There are also reports to suggest that Indian Maoists are increasingly taking to opium cultivation in areas under their control to finance their activities. The Maoists – crime – drug nexus is rather explosive.
Naxalite insurgency spreading like wildfire. Hindustan's Maoist insurgency map. There are secessionist movements in almost every state in "India" encompasisng more than 200 districts
Danger-2 The security forces, primarily the Indian Army, have held the state of Jammu & Kashmir physically since Independence. The politicians and the bureaucrats have contributed nothing to resolve the situation. The danger has since magnified many times as displayed by the presence of thousands of supporters of LeT flying their flags in a recent rally of dissidents. Under the garb of peace overtures, heavily armed infiltrators with tacit support from the Pak Military-Intelligence establishment continue to make inroads into Kashmir. They are at present lying low, waiting for an opportune moment for vicious strikes on several fronts to undermine the Indian Union. This ghost force reared its head in a recent rally organised by Geelani. Musharraf and his sympathisers in India are working in a highly synchronised fashion for demilitarisation of the Valley. Simultaneously, there is an insidious campaign to malign the Indian Army on one pretext or the other as part of the psywar being waged by the ghost force under Islamabad’s directions. After all the wars, export of terrorism, inconsistent and weak policies by New Delhi, Islamabad could not win Kashmir only because the Indian Army held its ground. If the ghost force succeeds in making locals rise against the Army, it will be an unprecedented achievement for Islamabad.
Map of Kashmir Showing the river flow from Kashmir and beyond
The talk of demilitarisation is therefore merely a ploy that aims to achieve the Kashmir objective even as Pak Military-Intelligence establishment expands its tentacles not only within the Valley but in other parts of India as well. While the Pak dispensation talks of peace, terrorist cells are proliferating in the country including new frontiers in southern part of India. Islamic fundamentalism / terrorism footprints, as evidenced by Bangalore centered incidents, are too glaring to be ignored. Islamic terrorism in the garb of freedom fighting in Kashmir is therefore de-stabilising the entire country. Islamabad is using Kashmir as a gateway / launching pad to rest of India.
Bangladesh map: Siliguri corridor is vulnerable to an expanding China map
Danger-3 Given a modicum of political will, Danger-I and II may still be manageable, however, Danger III to its territorial integrity in the northeast may prove to be the most difficult. In fact the entire northeast can easily be unhooked on multiple counts from the Union. First, these are low populated areas having contiguity with the most densely populated and demographically aggressive country in the world, i.e., Bangladesh. The country has also emerged as a major source of Islamic fundamentalism, which impacts grievously on the northeast. To add to these woes, New Delhi because of sheer vote-bank politics legitimised illegal migration for 22 years through the vehicle of IMDT. Many border districts now have a majority population constituting illegal immigrants from Bangladesh.
Naxalites insurgency and Seven Sister states of the Northeast
In near future, this leverage will be used to create an internal upheaval against the Centre as in the case of the Valley. It’s a classic Islamic fundamentalist principle of asymmetric warfare. What cannot be achieved by conventional wars, can be done through infiltration and subsequently internal subversion. They call it “jihad!” Second, the northeast if not addressed appropriately could unhook from the Union before the Valley given the acute vulnerability of the Siliguri Corridor, which is merely 10 to 20 kilometer wide and 200 kilometers long. If this critical corridor is choked or subverted or severed by force, the Union of India will have to maintain the northeast by air. With poor quality of governance for which the country is infamous, the local population may gravitate towards other regional powers.
Third, with China’s claim over Arunachal Pradesh becoming more strident, as evidenced by its recent stance on Tawang, the danger to the Siliguri Corridor stands enhanced. This corridor has been facing internal turmoil for many years. The area may well be further subverted by inimical regional powers. Chinese intention to bargain for Tawang to secure Tibet is deceptive. Subsequently, it would covet entire Arunachal Pradesh to protect Tawang.
India China border dispute. Bharat occupies the territory of South Tibet which it calls Arunchal Pradesh. In an era of increased tension, Chinese forces have built a robut network of roads and rails to the border and Bharat has placed SU planes Tezpur to 3200 km or 8500 km with fuel tanks
Chinese are known for expanding their areas of strategic interests with time unlike the Indians who are in a tearing hurry to convert Siachen Glacier into a “mountain of peace” or LOC into “line of peace” or equating Pakistan as an equal victim of terrorism. It is a matter of grave concern that New Delhi is so prone to issue statements without thinking it through, as long as it appeases the adversary even temporarily. Therefore the northeast — with the internal turmoil in the Siliguri Corridor, with low population surrounded by overpopulated Bangladesh exporting Islamic terrorism under tutelage of Islamabad, with China gaining influence in Nepal and Bangladesh and its upping the ante on Tawang — the danger to the region is grave. Manipur is a stark indicator.
The insurgents have nearly weaned the state from the Indian Union. The writ of the Indian Union has ceased to operate; insurgents (freedom fighters), compelling people to turn to South Korean music and films, ban Hindi music and films.
Hindu Liberation Army wants to rule the entire planet. Mr. Bharat Verma is a strong proponent of the destruction of Pakistan and conquest of Afghanistan
New Delhi continues to fiddle while the Northeast burns which in turn poses a grave problem to the territorial integrity of the Union of India. The world once again is getting polarised into two camps after the end of the Cold war — democracies and authoritarian regimes of all hues, which includes Islamists, communists, and the Maoists. Their perspectives are totally totalitarian. Therefore with China, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Myanmar, and Nepal (Maoists), being neighbours, the danger to the Indian territorial integrity stands enhanced.Bangladesh: The Danger III for India! 01 Sep, 2009 Bharat Verma. (The author is editor, Indian Defence Review)
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India has made its standing in the world because of its size, geo-strategic importance and huge economic market. It is largest in size and population and militarily and economically the strongest country in South Asia. Indian army of 1.4 million is third largest after China and USA. It has 34 combat divisions.
In the 18 infantry and ten mountain divisions, there are 360 infantry battalions. It has two airborne brigades having 20 combat helicopter units and 90,000 surface-to-air missiles and wide variety of surface-to-surface missiles. In the three armored divisions, seven independent armored brigades and five RAPID divisions there are 93 tank regiments with 4500 tanks and 40 mechanised battalions. In two artillery divisions and independent brigades there are 52 air defence regiments and 200 artillery regiments having 12000 artillery pieces. Besides, India has formidable air force and navy.
Diplomatically it is well placed in world comity and enjoys best of relations with world powers as well as Muslim world. Till 1990 it was strategic partner of former Soviet Union and after the demise of latter it became the strategic partner of USA and continues to maintain best of relations with Russia. It has of late warmed up its relations with China after pushing the border dispute on the back burner. Israel developed special ties with India and both strive to destroy Pak nuclear facilities through a surgical strike or covert means. Israel has become biggest arms supplier of India.
In marked contrast to its high standing across the globe where it shows its humane face, India does not enjoy good reputation within South Asia where its interests clash with neighboring countries. Rather than acting as a big brother and winning over militarily and economically weak neighbors, it has all along adopted a hostile posture to make them subservient to its wishes. It is so obsessed with becoming the unchallenged regional power that it is spending huge amounts on acquisition of weapons of all hues and in modernizing its armed forces. Instead of attending to miseries of Indian people who commit suicide and sell their children and honour and their kidneys to survive, India is going berserk in building up its military power. Over 70% of Indians live below poverty line but Indian propagandist project India as ‘India shining’.
Among its neighbors, Pakistan is its chief rival since it refuses to accept India’s hegemony. Indian leaders are still not reconciled with existence of Pakistan and vie for its dismemberment.
Its survival and progress traumatize them and to lessen their anguish, they find ways and means to impede and possibly block all avenues of progression and keep looking for opportunities to deliver a death blow. India has gone to war with Pakistan five times including two limited conflicts in Rann of Katch and Kargil. Several times the two armed forces came close to a major clash with nuclear overtones. It is essentially Pakistan phobia which impels India to keep expanding its arsenal. Out of thirteen Corps, seven Indian Corps are poised against Pakistan.. RAW in close collaboration with CIA, FBI, Mossad, MI-6 and RAAM is currently engaged in destabilising Pakistan through clandestine means using Afghan soil.
Indian defence budget for the current financial year has jumped by 50% and amounts to $32.7 billion to carryout further force modernisation program. It doesn’t include expenditure on nuclear production and space projects. It plans to import military hardware worth $30 billion from USA by 2010. Cash strapped USA urgently in need of cash to tide over its economic recession and fiscal depression is too willing to oblige. 126 mirages are being procured from France, 66 Hawk trainers fighter jets from UK and a Phalcon. Navy will receive six French scorpion submarines, nuclear submarines, long range maritime reconnaissance aircraft, Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov. Army will get 12-1500 howitzer guns worth $ 3 billion from South Africa, Israel and Sweden D-90S tanks and MBRLs. Hectic preparations are underway for NBC warfare. It has taken the plea that it sees the possibility of NBC weapons falling into hands of terrorists.
In last three years India spent $ 10.5 billion on military imports. It has become largest arms importer among the developing world. It launched indigenously built nuclear submarine Arihant with underwater ballistic missiles capability on 26 July 2009 and has also procured AWACs. All these point towards its hegemonic designs. India launched a spy satellite in collaboration with Israel recently. When it learnt that China intends acquiring anti-satellite capabilities and has increased its naval presence in Indian Ocean to protect its commercial interests, it got edgy and said it is against militarization of space. None questioned India as to why it wants to keep space demilitarized and why not sea, land and air where it is spending billions to build up naval, army and air force assets. Taking advantage of civilian nuclear deal it inked with USA in 2008, it is modernizing and expanding its nuclear arsenal. India’s agreement to place its 4 out of 22 nuclear reactors under safeguards of IAEA by 2014 is inconsequential. In next five year time, it would be able to manufacture 200 additional nuclear bombs thereby doubling existing stock level. It is a purposeful move to pressurize Pakistan to do the same well knowing that US influenced IAEA has double standards when dealing with Muslim and non-Muslim countries. Indian lobby in USA succeeded in making Kerry Lugar aid bill for Pakistan harmful. Apart from other insulting conditions, the bill seeks freeze of Pak nuclear program.
India has all along adopted a duplicitous stance in its dealings with Pakistan. Duplicity of India can be gauged from its responses to various events. When Pakistan became member of SEATO and CENTO in 1950s essentially because of Indian threat to its security, India cried out that Pakistan was encouraging American influence in Indian subcontinent and becoming a threat to India. Nehru made this into an excuse to take a U turn on his commitment of holding plebiscite in Kashmir. India ignored the fact that it was sitting in the lap of USSR but outwardly espousing non-alignment. After getting beating from Chinese in 1962 conflict, India opened its doors for arms assistance both from Moscow and Washington. Indian military supported cross border terrorism in former East Pakistan in 1971 and broke Pakistan into two. From 1990s onwards, India forgetting its past conduct has consistently accused Pakistan of cross border terrorism in Indian occupied Kashmir where a popular freedom struggle is raging since 1989. It welcomed Soviet occupation of Afghanistan and vociferously condemned USA, western world and Pakistan in particular for supporting Afghan Jihad.
Having opposed the policies of USA for over four decades, it suddenly fell into the lap of USA the moment USSR lost its super power status and became its strategic partner in 1991. From that time onwards it has all along vied to spoil Pak-US relations and welcomed US intrusion in the region. It lent full support to Washington for its intended invasion of Afghanistan and offered its full services. It is party to occupation forces and is vying to become the key player in Afghanistan affairs. It has extracted highly prized civilian nuclear deal from USA and is receiving sophisticated weaponry from USA as well as from Russia in huge quantities without any compunction.
In contrast to huge defence budget and spending on purchase of latest state-of-art-of weapons by India, which has radically altered the military balance in its favor, any effort by Pakistan to procure its modest defence needs from USA, China or any other country is vociferously censured and hue and cry is made that it has aggressive designs against India.
Even the equipment procured for counter terrorism is objected to asserting that aid money would be used for purchasing offensive weapons for use against India. Indian rulers had raised serious objections to $10.5 billion military and economic assistance to Pakistan announced by George Bush for fighting US war on terror. They keep complaining at the top of their voices and do not stop grousing till such time the decision is reversed or the agreed to package drastically cut, or it is tied to tough conditions or India gets a better arms deal from USA. This has been the usual practice of India right from early 1950s. No one castigate India for its unwarranted wailing and none remind India that Pakistan has suffered a great deal at the hands of chauvinist India and is paying a very heavy price fighting US war on terror in terms of human losses, destruction of property and economic loss, which has been made more complicated because of Indian involvement.
Once Biden-Kerry Bill and later Kerry-Lugar Bill (KLB) was in the process of formulation, Indians raised a storm. Indian lobby in USA played a role in making the language of KLB insulting and in adding harmful clauses. Once the bill was passed which was apparently lucrative, offering $1.5 billion grant to Pakistan annually, surprisingly India did not make hue and cry. Rather, Indian media is trying to defend KLB and is speaking the language of ruling regime of Pakistan. Aakar Patel in his article titled ‘Kerry-Lugar is good for Pakistan’ appearing on 18 October in ‘The News’ has argued that the bill doesn’t infringe upon Pak sovereignty as asserted by Pak army.
He has subtly tried to provoke KLB lovers in Pakistan that army have no reason to get upset and to make its concerns public. He has eulogized Mehmood Qureshi calling him world-class, forgetting that during his last visit to New Delhi in November 2008 when Mumbai carnage took place, he and his colleagues had dubbed his utterances as insolent and puffed-up.
In case of Kashmir dispute, India has sought policy of bilateralism and non-interference of outside powers merely to prevent third party mediation or facilitation but seeks US intervention whenever it wants Pakistan to be coerced. It would welcome US facilitation on Kashmir if US Administration gives a solemn pledge that the dispute would be solved strictly in accordance with the wishes of India. Indian lobby in USA in league with Israeli lobby has become so influential that it made Obama backtrack on his commitment to amicably solve Kashmir dispute and for which Holbrooke had been mandated. India is at present in the forefront of US-Israeli game plan to destabilize, denuclearize and de-Islamize Pakistan and to turn it into a vassal state of India.
Ongoing spate of terrorist attacks in major cities of Punjab and NWFP and Islamabad and attack on GHQ has multiple aims. These are: force Pakistan to expedite military operation in South Waziristan Agency (SWA) so that large part of army gets fixed in that region and possibly get defeated; heighten animosity between the military and tribals to an extent that the latter refuse to side with it in case of Indo-Pak war; taking advantage of war in Waziristan, accelerate flow of RAW trained suicide bombers and terrorists from Afghanistan into Pakistan; carry forward war on terror to Punjab with a view to establish linkage of terrorists in south Punjab with Tehrik-e-Taliban and thus pressurize the government to launch another operation in Punjab; (ANP has already started to voice its demand for an operation in Punjab); provoke Pashtun belt of Balochistan including Quetta by launching drones on the pretext that Afghan Taliban Shura is stationed in Quetta; instigate MQM to make hue and cry about threat of Talibanisation in Karachi so as to justify demanding a military operation against Pashtun community based in Karachi. On directions from Washington, more and more fingers are being pointed towards Southern Punjab and Muredke. Idea is to keep pushing the army from one inferno into another so as to demoralize and exhaust it, lower its rising image in the eyes of public and thus place the army on a weak wicket to confront the Indian challenge. Indian dangerous designs against Pakistan, Sun, 2009-10-25 02:23 — editor, PakistanBy Asif Haroon Raja, – Asian Tribune -
Bharati news channels are reporting that there are serious doubts about Bharat’s claim as a Nuclear power. Mr. Kalam’s so called “accomplishments” on Pokhran II and the missile program have now been exposed. Mr. Kalam is an engineer not a scientist and he does not have a Phd. Both his missile and nuclear programs were total failures.
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Indian missile systems: A tale of tears and failure
Bharat’s status as a nuclear power is now in doubt. According to Indian scientists and other international scientists the nuclear bombs were duds. Talk to any Indian and he or she will go on for ever about the IT successes–a small $41 Billion industry that is now getting clobbered by China that is overtaking the Indian industry because of the robust Chinese manufacturing.
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The DRDO had difficulty marrying high concepts with sound engineering. Thus many major systems on the drawing board did not become potent weapons. Although it had a staff of 30,000, 51 laboratories and a US$2.5-billion budget, the organization operated under technical and critical-component constraints for the last 50 years. It has spent more than US$50 billion and produced very little.
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The army has had many problems with the INSAS rifle developed by the organization, and nobody wants the main battle tank it developed. Its many tactical missiles have never met their defined parameters, and the Kaveri engine for light combat aircraft has been under development for three decades. WORLD VIEW NEWS SERVICE. Israel’s Military Supplies to India By Hari Sud Special to Salem-News.com
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The colossal failures of Indian manufacturing are hardly ever discussed. For the past 60 years the Indian manufacturing sector has been producing junk. Tata is not a competitor of Toyota and will never be a competitor of Honda. Indian missiles are a huge failure. Indian missile system started back in the 50s on a five folder programme namely:
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1) Agni 2) Pirthivi 3) Akash 4) Trishul and 5) Nag consisting of surface to surface surface to air and anti-tank systems.
Prithvi: To date the only reliable delivery system inducted is the Pirthvi missile with a range of 300 kilometres. The subsequent versions of this missile are still undergoing tests. The pride of India the Agni missile tested last time landed 200 kilometres off target.
The pride of India the Agni missile tested last time landed 200 kilometres off target.
Akash: Failure: After several years of testing has been shelved for reasons best known to the Indians. Akashwas meant as a substitute for Pechora. On the Akash missile, which was the subject of the DRDO media conference here on Tuesday, former air chief S. P. Tyagi said:“Akash was to be ready at a certain time, but it wasn’t. I had to change everything to make up for the delay.” Bothmissiles were part of a programme to develop indigenous weapons, which began in July 1983, with plans for Agni, Prithvi, Trishul, Akash and Nag missiles.
Trishul: Failure: Trishul is being replaced by Israeli Barak and Russian systems.
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The IAF, for instance, has aging Pechora, Igla-1M and OSA-AK missile systems, and that, too, in woefully inadequate numbers.
While Trishul was to replace its OSA-AK weapons system, Akashwas meant as a substitute for Pechora.
But both the Trishul and Akash air defence missile systems, which are part of the original Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme launched as far back as 1983, have been dogged by development snags in their “command guidance and integrated Ramjet rocket propulsion” systems.
Trishul, for instance, has been tested over 80 times so far without coming anywhere near becoming operational. It was, in fact, virtually given up for dead in 2003 after around Rs 300 crore was spent on it, before being revived yet again.
Trishul’s repeated failure, in fact, forced the Navy to go in for nine Israeli Barak anti-missile defence systems for its frontline warships, along with 200 Barak missiles, at a cost of Rs 1,510 crore during the 1999 Kargil conflict. The Navy is now inducting even more Barak systems due to Trishul’s continued failure.
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Speaking of the Trishul surface-to-air missile that has now been termed a technology demonstrator, former naval chief Sushil Kumar said:“It was a national embarrassment. DRDO made fake claims for 25 years. In the 1999 Kargil conflict, the navy was vulnerable to attacks from Pakistan’s Harpoon.
“Finally the project was scrapped when the navy went in for the Israeli Barak missiles. The Prithvi’s naval variant, Dhanush, is also flawed and ill-conceived, which is being inflicted on the navy.”Indian missile system started back in the 50s on a five folder programme namely:
Nag: The Nag proved to be as deadily as the Holy Cow.
Agni: Failure: The Agni-I (range 700 to 800 kilometers) and Agni-II were both products of India’s space program and connected to its Integrated Guided Missile Development Program (IGMDP), itself launched in 1983. Originally, their design used a satellite space-launching rocket (SLV-3) as the first stage, on top of which was mounted the very short-range (150 to 250 kilometers) liquid fuel-propelled Prithvi missile.
The Agni-III’sbrand new design, in which both stages use solid propellants, was to enable it to carry a payload weighing up to 1.5 tons and deliver it to targets as far away as Beijing and Shanghai. At present, India lacks an effective nuclear deterrent vis-a-vis China, based on a delivery vehicle carrying a nuclear warhead. Agni-III was meant to fill the void.
The failure of the Agni III was in some ways more serious because it exposed the political limitations of India’s attempts, despite its ambitions, to pursue a military capability which is truly independent of the US’s strategic calculations.
The surface-to-surface ballistic missile, designed to have a range of 3,500 kilometers, took off in a “fairly smooth” manner at the designated hour. But “a series of mishaps” occurred in its later flight path.
The Agni-III was originally meant to be tested in 2003-04. However, the test was postponed owing to technological snags. After their rectification, said reports, the missile’s test flights were put off twice largely for “political reasons”, so as not to annoy the US.
Earlier this year, India decided to postpone the missile test out of fear that a test could hamper US Congressional ratification of the India-US nuclear cooperation deal. Publicly, the Indian defense minister cited “self-imposed restraint” to justify the postponement.
The Indian missile met a disaster as it could not attain the altitude where the first stage is over or the second is even ignited.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u42qOM1Bbzk
He disputed the Indian claim, saying that with the range of 3,500 km, the missile had to go above about 800-900 km while the second stage had to be ignited at 28 to 30 km.
‘If the missile fell from the height of 12 km, it establishes that either it’s motor rocket, the basics of the missile proved failure or the guidance and control system was faulty. In both the probabilities, Indian technology has been exposed in clumsy manners.’
‘It is interesting to watch that Indian missile programme that was initiated by French and US assistance and later New Delhi also borrowed Russian technical support has been facing tragedies from the beginning,’ the newspaper quoted him as saying.
Brahmos: Failure
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2do7oLICwbA
The Pakistani missile systems consist of the following:
Hatf 1, Abdali, Ghaznavi, Shaheen 1, Ghauri, Anza mk 1 and 2,T he Green Arrow and The Babur cruise missile
When Pakistan tested the first of the Hatf series the Indian military chiefs regarded it as a mere fire cracker. Over the years the firecracker has earned the reputation of being called the Safron Slayer and Bombay Blasters. Pakistan has not only successfully tested about a dozen different delivery systems but most astoundingly within a space of 20 years have operationally inducted half a dozen delivery systems the Hatf 1, Abdali, Ghaznavi, Shaheen 1, Ghauri, Anza mk 1 and 2,The Green Arrow and The Babur cruise missile.
They are all operational with the Pakistan strategic forces. Where as Ghauri 2 and Shaheen 2 are in advanced testing stages the biggest shock for the world the Taimur Delivery system is waiting in the pipelines.
The Green arrow is an anti tank missile amongst other countries it was sold to saudi arabia who wrecked havock on Iraqi tanks during the first gulf war.It was first inducted by the Pakistan army in 1988-89 also called baktar shikan newer and more deadly versions have since been introduced.
Taimur is a highly classified project lets say we are talking about launching satellites as far as the enemy isconcerned believe me the babur cruise missile is sufficient enough to take care the so called.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZtjgOkQOdU
Yeah Baktar Shikan we all know. Any how there is some work to be completed soon
1- Increase range of Babur
2-Developed a naval version of Babur.
3-SLV, indeed we need that desperately. SLVindeed Pakistan’s top most military and strategic need at this point of time not only that but whole Satellite system. I know we can have access to Chinese GPS if required.
Indian missile systems: A tale of tears and failure
A recent satement from the highest official in the Indian army about the failure of the Indian missle program and te advice to scrap the local Indian missiles has raised suspicions that the latest missle test was rigged. The Mail Today newspaper on Wednesday quoted the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) as announcing that it would scrap its 25-year Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme (IGMDP) by the end of this year. Plagued by cost overruns and repeated failures, the announcement is a virtual admission of failure,” the newspaper said.“In fact, some former chiefs of the different services said as much on hearing the news.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9uqXj4ZwGI
1) Agni 2) Pirthivi 3) Akash 4) Trishul and 5) Nag 6) Agni consisting of surface to surface surface to air and anti-tank systems.
The Pakistani missile systems consist of the following:
Hatf 1,Abdali,Ghaznavi,Shaheen 1,Ghauri,Anza mk 1 and 2,The Green Arrow and The Babur cruise missile
When Pakistan tested the first of the Hatf series the Indian military chiefs regarded it as a mere fire cracker. Over the years the firecracker has earned the reputation of being called the Safron Slayer and Bombay Blasters. Pakistan has not only successfully tested about a dozen different delivery systems but most astoundingly within a space of 20 years have operationally inducted half a dozen delivery systems the Hatf 1,Abdali,Ghaznavi,Shaheen 1,Ghauri,Anza mk 1 and 2,The Green Arrow and The Babur cruise missile.
They are all operational with the Pakistan strategic forces. Where as Ghauri 2 and Shaheen 2 are in advanced testing stages the biggest shock for the world the Taimur Delivery system is waiting in the pipelines.
The Green arrow is an anti tank missile amongst other countries it was sold to saudi arabia who wrecked havock on Iraqi tanks during the first gulf war.It was first inducted by the Pakistan army in 1988-89 also called baktar shikan newer and more deadly versions have since been introduced.
Taimur is a highly classified project lets say we are talking about launching satellites as far as the enemy isconcerned believe me the babur cruise missile is sufficient enough to take care the so called
Yeah Baktar Shikan we all know. Any how there is some work to be completed soon
1- Increase range of Babur
2-Developed a naval version of Babur.
3-SLV, indeed we need that desperately. SLVindeed Pakistan’s top most military and strategic need at this point of time not only that but whole Satellite system. I know we can have access to Chinese GPS if required;
APPENDIX A
India exposed by missile failure By Praful Bidwai
NEW DELHI – The failure in rapid succession this week of a satellite launcher and a new ballistic missile have shown up the technological and budgetary difficulties faced by India’s space establishment – civilian and military.
Hours after the US$50 million geosynchronous satellite launch vehicle (GSLV) witha communications satellite on board was ordered to self-destruct – as it veered off course soon after liftoff on Monday – authorities at the civilian Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) said one of its four strap-on rocket motors had failed.
Like the GSLV, a new intermediate-range ballistic missile “Agni III” that was launched by the secretive Defense Research Development Organization (DRDO) failed soon after liftoff on
Sunday and crashed into the Bay of Bengal, less than 1,000 kilometers away from the launch site.
The failure of the Agni III was in some ways more serious because it exposed the political limitations of India’s attempts, despite its ambitions, to pursue a military capability which is truly independent of the US’s strategic calculations.
The surface-to-surface ballistic missile, designed to have a range of 3,500 kilometers, took off in a “fairly smooth” manner at the designated hour. But “a series of mishaps” occurred in its later flight path.
The Agni-III was originally meant to be tested in 2003-04. However, the test was postponed owing to technological snags. After their rectification, said reports, the missile’s test flights were put off twice largely for “political reasons”, so as not to annoy the US.
Earlier this year, India decided to postpone the missile test out of fear that a test could hamper US Congressional ratification of the India-US nuclear cooperation deal. Publicly, the Indian defense minister cited “self-imposed restraint” to justify the postponement.
However, last month, General Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the US military, visited India and declared that “I do not see it [a test] as destabilizing” or upsetting the regional “military balance” since “other countries in this region” (read, Pakistan) have also tested missiles.
Following this “facilitation” or clearance, and after indications of favorable votes in US Congressional committees on the nuclear deal, India’s stand changed. A week later, the DRDO announced it was ready to launch Agni-III.
This is the ninth missile in the Agni series (named after the Sanskrit word for “fire”) to have been tested. The first was tested in May 1989. The last test (Agni-II) took place in August 2004.
Unlike major powers like the US, Russia or China, which test the same missile 10 to 20 times before announcing that it is fully developed, India considers only three or four test flights to be enough for both producing and inducting new missiles.
This is not the first time that the test of an Agni series missile has failed. In the past, some tests of the shorter range Agni-II (range 2,000 kilometers-plus) also proved unsuccessful.
But what makes the Agni-III’sfailure significant is that unlike its shorter-range predecessors, it was a wholly new design, developed with the specific purpose of delivering a nuclear warhead.
The Agni-I (range 700 to 800 kilometers) and Agni-II were both products of India’s space program and connected to its Integrated Guided Missile Development Program (IGMDP), itself launched in 1983. Originally, their design used a satellite space-launching rocket (SLV-3) as the first stage, on top of which was mounted the very short-range (150 to 250 kilometers) liquid fuel-propelled Prithvi missile.
The Agni-III’sbrand new design, in which both stages use solid propellants, was to enable it to carry a payload weighing up to 1.5 tons and deliver it to targets as far away as Beijing and Shanghai. At present, India lacks an effective nuclear deterrent vis-a-vis China, based on a delivery vehicle carrying a nuclear warhead. Agni-III was meant to fill the void.
The causes of the failure of the test flight are not clear. Scientists at the DRDO, which designed and built the missile, have been quoted as saying that many new technologies were tried in the Agni-III, including rocket motors, “fault-tolerant” avionics and launch control and guidance systems. Some of these could have failed. Other reports attribute the mishap to problems with the propellant.
“The DRDO isn’t the world’s most reliable weapons R&D agency,” Admiral L Ramdas, a former chief of staff of the Indian Navy, told Inter Press Service. “The Indian armed services’ experience with DRDO-made armaments has not been a happy one. Their reliability is often extremely poor. We often used to joke that one had to pray they would somehow work in the battlefield.”
The agency has a budget of Rs30 billion (US$670 million), which is of the same order as the annual expenditure of the Department of Atomic Energy which is responsible for India’s civilian and military nuclear programs.
“This figure is extremely high for a poor country like India, with a low rank of 127 among 175 countries of the world in the United Nations Human Development Index,” said Anil Chowdhary of the Coalition for Nuclear Disarmament and Peace. “Yet the DRDO has delivered very little.”
None of the three major projects assigned to the DRDO has been completed on time or without huge cost-overruns. These include the development of a Main Battle Tank (MBT), a nuclear power plant for a submarine, and an advanced Light Combat Aircraft (LCA), all involving expenditures of hundreds of millions of dollars.
The MBT project was launched in 1974. But the tank has failed to meet service requirement tests. It is reportedly too heavy and undependable to be used in combat operations. The Indian Army prefers imported Russian tanks over the indigenous MBTs and says it will use the MBTs for training, not operations.
The nuclear submarine project, launched 31 years ago, is not yet finished despite the almost $1 billion spent on it. The LCA project, launched in 1983, is still in the doldrums: the DRDO has failed to develop the right engine for it. Even with an imported engine, the plane is unlikely to enter service anytime soon.
“The primary reason for these shocking instances of underperformance and inability is lack of public accountability and oversight of the DRDO,” says M V Ramana, an independent technical expert attached to the Center for Interdisciplinary Studies in Environment and Development, Bangalore.
“The DRDO, like all of India’s defense and nuclear service establishments, is not subject to normal processes of audit. It has used ’security’ as a smokescreen or shield and refused to be held to account,” he adds.
The DRDO says it will try to rectify the faults in Agni-III. Whether or not and whenever that happens, India’s missile development program, withfuture plans to develop an intercontinental ballistic missile with a range of 5,000 kilometers or more, has suffered a major setback. (Inter Press Service)
APPENDIX B
Agni Missile designers are incompetent: Pakistan scientist Daily India ^ | 7/9/06 Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 7:20:03 AM by maxypane
Islamabad, July 10 (IANS) The failure of Agni-III reflected ‘incompetence’ of the Indian missile designers and planners, said an eminent Pakistani scientist.
They would need to go back to the drawing board and take two to three years, unless ‘they borrow something from abroad,’ said Samar Mubarikmund, chairman of Pakistan’s National Engineering and Science Commission (Nescom).
Claiming that Israel was involved in developing India’s missile programme, Mubarikmund said Pakistan, which had an indigenous programme of its own, retained superiority over all others in the South Asian region.
Mubarikmund told The News Sunday that the circumstances narrated by the Indians for the failure of the missile test were ‘not acceptable.’
The Indian missile met a disaster as it could not attain the altitude where the first stage is over or the second is even ignited.
He disputed the Indian claim, saying that with the range of 3,500 km, the missile had to go above about 800-900 km while the second stage had to be ignited at 28 to 30 km.
‘If the missile fell from the height of 12 km, it establishes that either it’s motor rocket, the basics of the missile proved failure or the guidance and control system was faulty. In both the probabilities, Indian technology has been exposed in clumsy manners.’
‘It is interesting to watch that Indian missile programme that was initiated by French and US assistance and later New Delhi also borrowed Russian technical support has been facing tragedies from the beginning,’ the newspaper quoted him as saying.
The newspaper also quoted from official sources to take pot shots at Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.
‘In fact he (Manmohan Singh) attained high moral ground for his country just to provide cover to constant failures of his country’s scientists engaged in developing long-range missiles and they were hesitating from testing the missile,’ the sources said.
Pakistan is still maintaining its superiority in missile technology in whole SouthAsia as it has successfully tested number of missiles with various ranges including Shaheen-II that has the range of the 2,500 km withall remarkably accurate parameters.
These parameters proved in the presence of international neutral empires when the missile hit the target to extent of centimetres accuracy in the Indian Ocean, the sources said.
APPENDIX C
Indian missiles far from being operational despite repeated tests IRNA – Islamic Republic News Agency
New Delhi, July 24,IRNA — The Trishul “quick-reaction” surface-to- air missile was again tested on Sunday, but just like its sister Akash missile it is still far from being inducted into the armed forces.
The frequent time, cost, technical and operational slippages in the nine-km-range Trishul and 25-km-range Akash surface-to-air missile programs have meant that the country’s air defence cover continues to have gaping holes.
Pakistan, in sharp contrast, has always accorded high priority to its air defence management, with its multi-tier surveillance cover, air defence fighters, quick-reaction, short-range missiles and an integrated control and reporting system.
The Indian Armed Forces, however, continues to make do with its obsolete air defence systems, said an Asian Age report here today.
The IAF, for instance, has aging Pechora, Igla-1M and OSA-AK missile systems, and that, too, in woefully inadequate numbers.
While Trishul was to replace its OSA-AK weapons system, Akashwas meant as a substitute for Pechora.
But both the Trishul and Akash air defence missile systems, which are part of the original Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme launched as far back as 1983, have been dogged by development snags in their “command guidance and integrated Ramjet rocket propulsion” systems.
Trishul, for instance, has been tested over 80 times so far without coming anywhere near becoming operational. It was, in fact, virtually given up for dead in 2003 after around Rs 300 crore was spent on it, before being revived yet again.
Trishul’s repeated failure, in fact, forced the Navy to go in for nine Israeli Barak anti-missile defence systems for its frontlinewarships, along with 200 Barak missiles, at a cost of Rs 1,510 crore during the 1999 Kargil conflict. The Navy is now inducting even more Barak systems due to Trishul’s continued failure.
The Defence Research and Development Organization, for its part, contends the seven Trishul trials so far this year, including a flight test with enhanced range of 11.5km against a remotely piloted aircraft, have “met all mission objectives.”
Trishul can engage targets like aircraft and helicopter, flying between 300 meters and 500 meters, by using its radar command-to- line, of-sight guidance system, it says.
The report card for Akash, tested 16 times since January 2005, is even better since it has completed all its development trials.
“On January 28 this year, interception of two moving targets by two Akashmissiles with live warheads was successfully carried out,” said an official.
“Akash has multiple-target handling capacity with a digitally coded command guidance system. Its user trials are now in progress,” he said.
The missile’s `Rajendra’ radar, a multi-function phased array radar which carries out surveillance, target-tracking, missile acquisition and guidance, can simultaneously track several aircraft within a range of 40 to 60 kilometers. 2160/2321/1414 (http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/india/2006/india-060724-irna04.htm)
APPENDIX D
Pakistan missile project ahead of India’s’
NEW DELHI, Jan 9: India’s missile scientists have said that the country’s indigenous missile programme is flagging and needs foreign assistance to revive it.
The embarrassing admission came amid claims by Indian analysts that Pakistan’s missile programme had proved to be more robust and surefooted than India’s. The Mail Today newspaper on Wednesday quoted the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) as announcing that it would scrap its 25-year Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme (IGMDP) by the end of this year.
“Plagued by cost overruns and repeated failures, the announcement is a virtual admission of failure,” the newspaper said.“In fact, some former chiefs of the different services said as much on hearing the news.”
Speaking of the Trishul surface-to-air missile that has now been termed a technology demonstrator, former naval chief Sushil Kumar said:“It was a national embarrassment. DRDO made fake claims for 25 years. In the 1999 Kargil conflict, the navy was vulnerable to attacks from Pakistan’s Harpoon.
“Finally the project was scrapped when the navy went in for the Israeli Barak missiles. The Prithvi’s naval variant, Dhanush, is also flawed and ill-conceived, which is being inflicted on the navy.”On the Akash missile, which was the subject of the DRDO media conference here on Tuesday, former air chief S. P. Tyagi said:“Akash was to be ready at a certain time, but it wasn’t. I had to change everything to make up for the delay.” Bothmissiles were part of a programme to develop indigenous weapons, which began in July 1983, with plans for Agni, Prithvi, Trishul, Akash and Nag missiles.
The IGMDP, which was aimed at achieving self-sufficiency in missile development and production, comprises five core missile programmes — the strategic Agni ballistic missile, the tactical Prithvi ballistic missile, the Akash and Trishul surface-to-air missiles and the Nag anti-tank guided missile.
The Mail Today quoted S. Prahlada, chief of the Control Research and Development, DRDO, as saying that development and production of most of the futuristic weapon systems would henceforth be undertaken with foreign collaboration.
With regard to the nuclear-capable Agni series, comprising I and II, the newspaper quoted army sources as saying while they had been tested five times each “a handful of tests are not enough to prove a missile’s worth”.
There were different problems with other systems too.
“Pakistan has always been one step ahead of India in its missile programme,” the newspaper said, adding that Islamabad has “a much more robust missile force than India, one capable of launching nuclear weapons to any part in this country.”
Unlike Indian missiles, which were declared “inducted” after a few tests, the Pakistani projectiles have always been thoroughly tested. http://www.dawn.com/2008/01/10/top16.htm
APPENDIX E
Agni Failure Bad News For India
 India’s doomed Agni missile. |
by Martin Sieff
UPI Senior News Analyst
Washington DC (UPI) Jul 17, 2006
The failure of two major India missile launches in two days Sunday and
Monday proved intensely embarrassing for the nation’s prestige and
threw major doubt on its military-industrial high-tech capabilities.An analysis from the Inter-Press Service that was published in the Asia
Times Tuesday argued that the problems are deep-rooted in the Indian
defense establishment.
On Monday, a $50 million geosynchronous satellite launch vehicle, or
GSLV, with a communications satellite on board was ordered to
self-destruct as it veered off course soon after liftoff on Monday.
Authorities at the civilian Indian Space Research Organization said one
of its four strap-on rocket motors had failed.
The day before, the Agni III intercontinental ballistic missile, the
pride of India’s strategic missile forces, failed shortly after take
off. The Agni III was designed to have a range of 2,100 miles to 2,400
miles — a capability that would have allowed it to deliver a nuclear
weapon payload as far as the Chinese cities of Beijing and Shanghai.
But on its first, and much delayed test launch, it crashed instead into
the Bay of Bengal after flying less than 600 miles.
Of the two unsuccessful launches, “the failure of the Agni III was in
some ways more serious because it exposed the political limitations of
India’s attempts, despite its ambitions, to pursue a military
capability which is truly independent of the U.S.’s strategic
calculations,” analyst Praful Bidwai wrote in the Asia Times.
The Agni-III was originally meant to be tested in 2003-04. However, its
first test was repeatedly postponed owing to technological problems.
More recently, as we have noted previously in these columns, the
Congress Party-led government of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh deferred
a scheduled test launch this year so as not to risk hostile reactions
in the United States while the U.S. Congress was considering
ratification of India’s nuclear cooperation agreement with the United
States.
However, committees of both the U.S. Senate and the House of
Representatives have given overwhelming approval to the nuclear
agreement that was finalized in March and its passage through both main
chambers of the U.S. legislature now appears assured. Also, Gen. Peter
Pace, the chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, assured Indian
officials in New Delhi in June that testing the Agni III would not be
viewed as a concern by the Bush administration.
Previously, some tests of the shorter range Agni-II with a range of
around 1,200 miles also proved unsuccessful, Bidwai noted. “But what
makes the Agni-III’s failure significant is that unlike its
shorter-range predecessors, it was a wholly new design, developed with
the specific purpose of delivering a nuclear warhead,” he wrote.
“The causes of the failure of the test flight are not clear,” Pridwai
wrote. “Scientists at the DRDO (India’s super-secret and prestigious
Defense Research Development Organization) which designed and built the
missile, have been quoted as saying that many new technologies were
tried in the Agni-III, including rocket motors, “fault-tolerant”
avionics and launch control and guidance systems. Some of these could
have failed. Other reports attribute the mishap to problems with the
propellant.”
“The DRDO isn’t the world’s most reliable weapons R&D agency,”
Admiral L. Ramdas, a former chief of staff of the Indian Navy, told
Inter Press Service. “The Indian armed services’ experience with
DRDO-made armaments has not been a happy one. Their reliability is
often extremely poor. We often used to joke that one had to pray they
would somehow work in the battlefield.”
Despite an annual budget of $670 million, comparable to that of India’s
massive Department of Atomic Energy, “The DRDO has delivered very
little,”
Anil Chowdhary of the Coalition for Nuclear Disarmament and Peace told Bidwai.
“None of the three major projects assigned to the DRDO has been
completed on time or without huge cost-overruns,” Bidwai noted. The
organization’s project to build India’s first home-produced main battle
tank began more than 30 years ago in 1974. Yet the tank has still
failed to meet service requirement tests and is reportedly too heavy
and undependable to be used in combat operations, he wrote.
The equally venerable DRDO project to build India’s first
home-manufactured nuclear submarine is still not completed, despite
expenditures on it of nearly $1 billion, Bidwai wrote. And a Light
Combat Aircraft, or LCA project, launched in 1983, is also mired
because the DRDO has failed to develop the right engine for it, he
wrote.
Even if the DRDO can manage a successful test launch of the Agni III
ICBM in the next few months, Bidwai’s analysis suggests that the
structural problems of India’s military-industrial sector are
widespread and deep-rooted and unlikely to be satisfactorily resolved
soon. That condition is likely to give an added impetus to India’s
efforts to develop ever-closer high tech ties with the United States.
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APPENDIX F (the spin on the stopping the program)
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Blast-off from a missile era
- Isolated self-reliance ends |
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| SUJAN DUTTA | |
New Delhi, Jan. 8: India has wound up its guided missile programme 24 years after it was launched, jettisoning the political philosophy of isolated self-reliance in military technology. The burial of the Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme (IGMDP) founded by A.P.J. Abdul Kalam in July 1983 was couched in claims by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) that it has delivered all five missile systems that the plan envisaged. The announcement comes a day before the DRDOcelebrates its golden jubilee. Begun with an initial allocation of about Rs 389 crore in 1983, the cost and time overruns have seen more than Rs 2,000 crore being used up in the programme to develop five missile systems. (See chart) C.K. Prahlada, the chairman of the IGMDP board and chief controller (research and development) of DRDO, declared today that the Akashsurface-to-air missile system tested last monthwas ready for induction by the army and the air force. With this, the IGMDP has been formally wound up. The winding up of the IGMDP does not mean that all work on the five missile projects is scrapped immediately. It means the government will not make any further investment in the research and development of these missiles over and above what has already been sanctioned. For example, the Agni III strategic missile that successfully test-fired in April last year can still be fine-tuned and more tests of it are likely on the road to induction in the armed forces. The government and the DRDO believe that the winding up of the IGMDP means the emphasis is now shifting from research and development to series production. Prahlada said missile manufacturing capacities have to be expanded. Capacity at a missile facility in Hyderabad will be expanded in the short term to 100 missiles from 40 a year. The IGMDP’s time actually ran out in December 2007 and were it not for the DRDO’s advertisement of the Akash as the pinnacle of its success, the programme’s burial would have been quiet. Work on the smallest of the missiles under the project — the anti-tank Nag — will be over this summer. “You must understand the background of the IGMDP,” Prahlada explained. “It was started at a time when there was no help forthcoming from anywhere. That situation is not there now.” To illustrate, he said there were organisations from as many as 14 countries that were now willing to collaborate with the DRDO in developing missiles. Among these were the US, Israel, Germany, France and Russia. When the IGMDP was launched in July 1983, India was dependent almost wholly on Russian military technology. But even Soviet supplies and support for the strategic missile programme was niggardly. Understanding that the US had imposed a technology-denial regime, India offered to devise its own missiles and put Kalam in charge. The IGMDP was given time till 1995. On Kalam’s insistence, the P.V. Narasimha Rao government gave it a further lease of life for another 10 years. In 2006, when the defence establishment had all but taken a decision to mothball the Trishul missile programme, the DRDO insisted again — when Kalam was President — and the government granted it another two years. In these two years, the DRDO — and not only its missile programmes — came in for criticism from the users (the armed forces) and even its former scientists. But last year, the DRDO carried out probably the largest number of missile tests in the rush to meet the December 2007 deadline. Asked if the IGMDP was going to be replaced by another programme, Prahlada said there would be a general move towards greater collaborative ventures but this would be decided on a case-by-case basis. He said two possible models were the Brahmos supersonic cruise missile that is a joint venture between India and Russia run on commercial lines, and the Astra, a beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile for which the DRDOis tying up with institutions in at least four countries. But this model, however, will not be adopted for strategic (read long-range nuclear-capable) missiles like the Surya (which is on the drawing board) and electronic warfare systems. |
Appendix G
By Rajat Pandit, TNN, Monday, 2 February 2009.
NEW Delhi, India-With active help from China and North Korea, Pakistan has surged well ahead of India in the missile arena. The only nuclear-capable
ballistic missile in India’s arsenal which can be said to be 100% operational as of now is the short-range Prithvi missile.
Though the 700-km Agni-I and 2,000-km-plus Agni-II ballistic missiles are being “inducted” into the armed forces, it will take “some time” for them to become “fully-operational in the numbers required”.
Defence sources said the armed forces were still in the process of undertaking the “training trials” of Agni-I and Agni-II to give them the requisite capabilities to fire them on their own.
Of the two, the progress report of Agni-I, tested for the first time in January 2002 to plug the operational gap between Prithvi (150-350 km) and Agni-II missiles, is much better. The Army has already conducted two “user training trials”, one in October 2007 and other in March 2008, of the Pakistan-specific Agni-I missile.
The fourth test of 3,500-km Agni-III, which will give India the strategic capability to hit targets deep inside China, is also on the anvil now. But Agni-III, tested successfully only twice in April 2007 and May 2008, will not be ready for induction before 2012.
Then, of course, design work on India’s most ambitious strategic missile with near ICBM (intercontinental ballistic missile) capabilities, the 5,000-km range Agni-V, which incorporates a third composite stage in the two-stage Agni-III, is also in progress. “We should be ready to test Agni-V by 2010-2011,” said an official.
So, in effect, the missile report card is rather dismal at present. “Unlike Pakistan, our programme is indigenous. But a strategic missile needs to be tested 10 to 15 times, over a variety of flight envelopes and targets, before it can be said to be fully-operational. A missile cannot be dubbed ready just after three to four tests,” said an expert.
Keeping this benchmark in mind, only Prithvi can be dubbed to be fully ready. Defence PSUs like Bharat Dynamics Ltd, Bharat Earth Movers Ltd and Mishra Dhatu Nigam Ltd, in fact, are stepping up production of the different Prithvi variants.
Army, for instance, has orders worth Rs 1,500 crore for 75 Prithvi-I and 62 Prithvi-II missiles, while IAF has gone in for 63 Prithvi-II missiles for over Rs 900 crore.
Navy, in turn, has ordered Dhanush missiles, the naval version of Prithvi, with a 350 km strike range, for its “dual-tasked” warships, INS Subhadra and INS Suvarna.
India wants to gatecrash into the very exclusive club of `Big-Five’ countries like Russia, US and China, which have both ICBMs (missiles with strike ranges over 5,500-km) and SLBMs (submarine-launched ballistic missiles), before 2015.
The SLBM quest is specifically crucial since it’s the most effective and secure leg of the “nuclear weapon triad”, with land-based missiles and aircraft capable of delivering nuclear bombs constituting the first two components.
The initial range of K-15 SLBM being developed by DRDO will, however, be limited to 750-km, far less than the over 5,000-km range SLBMs brandished by the `Big-5′ countries.
The plan is to go for higher strike ranges after the initial K-15 missiles are integrated into the indigenous nuclear-powered submarines being built under the secretive ATV (advanced technology vessel) programme.WWW.AHMEDQURAISHI.COM
Pakistan’s 250 JF-17s, 50 F-16: Indias panicky “concern”
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Pakistan’s JF-17 Thunder Fighter plane: US sanctions and external existential threats forced Pakistan to go Nuclear, build missiles and develop its own indigenous Fighter jet.It created a Nuclear deterrent, indigenous Al Khalid Tanksand a missile program that is the envy of South Asia.. The current situation. Pakistan: US package for Gilani –food,flights, F-16s, 15 Billion
The IAF has huge plans to spend $126 Billion on aircraft. If and when that materializes is subject to much discussion. The facts on the ground tell us that India’s role in the development of the Sukhoi role is miniscule. How could tow air forces develop a brand new plane in 1.5 years (October 2007-Jan 2009)?
“unless immediate steps are taken to arrest the reduction in IAF’s force levels, the nation will, for the first time in its history, lose the conventional military edge over Pakistan”. The previous IAF chief, Air Chief Marshal S P Tyagi warned the UPA government.
The failure is not limited to aircraft development, there is a trend here. Indian missle failures. Scrap the program?
“Acquisition of new airborne capabilities by Pakistan is definitely a matter of concern for us since it’s always primarily directed at us. If US thinks Pakistan will only use its upgraded F-16s for counter-terrorism, it’s sadly mistaken,” said a top defence officer, who refused to be named.
Western Air Command (WAC) chief, Air Marshal P K Barbora, in turn, said, “Every country does what it thinks is needed for its defence requirements. The question is what is going to be given to Pakistan with the F-16 upgrade programme.” Trail of tears and failure: Indian missiles.
The Bush administration, on its part, holds Pakistan’s F-16s will be upgraded with advanced targeting, precision-guided munitions (PGMs) and radar systems to improve their capability to attack terrorist targets along the volatile Afghan border. Chinese technology exports to Pakistan: JF-17 Thunder, J-10s, J-11s
This upgrade programme of the 30 of the original 40 F-16s acquired by Pakistan between 1983 and 1987, however, comes after Washington also agreed to sell Islamabad 18 to 25 spanking new F-16 variants, armed with a wide array of advanced missiles.
JF-17 Thunders Beyond the JF-17 Thunders. The J-10s etc.
“Moreover, Pakistan will begin inducting the first lot of the planned 250 JF-17 ‘Thunder’ fighters from China by end-2008. We obviously have to keep a close watch on this. Fighters are weapons of war, not of counter-terrorism,” said another officer.
But even as it grapples with a steady downturn in the number of its fighter squadrons, down to just 32 from the “sanctioned strength” of 39.5, IAF is “not too worried” at the developments. Russia elides India in Flanker Su-30 development
“We have our own plans of new acquisitions and upgrades of existing fleets to boost our defence preparedness,” said Air Marshal Barbora, whose command is primarily responsible for guarding the skies on the entire western front. Air Forces in South Asia: PAF counters IAF strategy.
For one, plans for faster induction of the 230 Sukhoi-30MKIscontracted from Russia in deals worth around $8.5 billion are currently underway. Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd, for instance, is working towards completing its licensed production of 140 Sukhois by 2013-2014 instead of the earlier 2017-2018.
Interestingly, IAF has drawn up plans to progressively base its new Sukhois on the western front after the eastern front. The Halwara airbase in WAC, which houses the almost moth-balled MiG-23s, will be among the first bases to get the new Sukhois. The declining Indo-Russian relationship. Delhi scrambles for new arms sources but they come with strings.
Then, of course, after “upgrades” of 125 MiG-21 ‘Bisons’ and around 100 MiG-27s and Jaguars with new weapon and avionics packages, India has signed a $964 million deal with Russia to refit its 63 MiG-29s. A similar deal is in the pipeline with France for IAF’s 51 Mirage-2000s. Chinese J-11s.
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| RUPEE NEWS | January 23rd, 2009 | Moin Ansari | معین آنصآرّی | اخبار روپیہ |
The Chinese Red dragon’s reach has scared the pants off the Indian elephant. Many have predicted a war between India and China within the next few years. Some called that prediction alarmist. First there were repeated statements from Delhi that China was their biggest enemy and threat. Then news stories that China has built a huge infrastructure on the undefined and undemarcated Mcmohan line (the de factor border between India and China). Now the escalating tensions are sounding alarm bells around the world. The Federation of American Scientist has just published pictures of Chinese missiles which can target all of India. The incompetent intelligence agencies of India didn’t have a clue about the missiles. Any high school drop out could have paid a a commercial satellite a nickel and gotten the pictures of the satellites. The fact that the FAS pictures has so unnerved Delhi that it has decided to form to new intelligence agencies is a subject of much discussion around the world
- Bharati RAW, DIA and IB fails to keep a tab on recent deployment of intermediate range missiles like DF-4 aand ICBMs in the Delingha
- The entire northern India and parts of central India can be hit from Delingha in Tibet
- Delhi forms separate missile intelligence centres to monitor Chinese activity
- Encircling India with bases from Pakistan to Malaca Straits
- Chinese Navy’s Nuclear Submarine based out of Hainan Island, 1,200 nautical miles from the strategic Malacca Strait scare the Bharti pundits like Bharati Verma. China warning: Allows satellites a peek at the Hainan Sub base
Analysis of new commercial satellite photos has identified an extensive deployment area with nearly 60 launch pads for medium-range nuclear ballistic missiles in Central China near Delingha and Da Qaidam.
The region has long been rumored to house nuclear missiles and I have previously described some of the facilities in a report and a blog. But the new analysis reveals a significantly larger deployment area than previously known, different types of launch pads, command and control facilities, and missile deployment equipment at a large facility in downtown Delingha.
The U.S. government often highlights China’s deployment of new mobile missiles as a concern but keeps the details secret, so the discovery of the deployment area provides the first opportunity for the public to better understand how China operates its mobile ballistic missiles. FAS Security
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The Peoples Republic of China possesses one of the largest land-based missile forces on the planet. The Chinese plan never aimed for ICMB parity with the US or Russia the rapid growth of a modern 2nd Artillery Corps has created a very potent deterrent force for Beijing. China’s missiles are capable of inundating the region surrounding China with thousands, of conventional and nuclear armed missiles. The Peoples Liberation Army’s 2nd Artillery Corps is now recognized as one of the most devastating military branches found in any military worldwide.
NEW DELHI: Stung by China’s aggressive posturing, including its deployment of missiles in Delingha near Tibet, and other increasingly hostile activities in India’s neighbourhood, the Cabinet Committee on Security is considering a proposal to set up separate centres for nuclear or missile intelligence and maritime security. In fact, with strong backing by National Security Advisor M K Narayanan, the CCS, which is still smarting under the Chinese `aggression’, is all set to give the go-ahead to the proposal.
From Delingha the DF-21 is in range of northern India and three Russian ICBM fields and a bomber base. Photo Courtesy: FAS
The inability of central intelligence agencies like RAW, DIA and IB in keeping a tab on recent deployment of intermediate range missiles like DF-4 and reports that Beijing might station ICBMs in the Delingha region seem to have alarmed authorities into action. The medium-range ballistic missiles which are already deployed in Delingha can hit targets that are almost 3,000 kilometres away. China has also built several launch pads for nuclear-tipped ballistic missiles in the same region.
“The entire northern India and parts of central India can be hit from there. The way these missiles have been deployed, they can only hit four countries — Nepal, Pakistan, Myanmar and India. And because the other three countries are not potential adversaries of China, there is obviously deep concern here about China’s intentions and you can say that this is one way of addressing this concern,” said a source, adding that the separate centres for missile and maritime intelligence will initially comprise officers from central intelligence agencies. Till now, the Joint Intelligence Committee (JIC) has worked as the nodal agency responsible for the functioning of all internal and external intelligence agencies.
A security official admitted that the need for separate missile intelligence centres was primarily because of China’s expanding missile development programme. The new agency will not just gather information but also analyse information available with central agencies like DIA, RAW, IB and NTRO and recommend action to counter any adverse development.
An increase in deployed DF-21 medium-range ballistic missiles is reported by the Pentagon. Commercial satellite images in 2007 indicated possible DF-21 deployment at Delingha in the northern parts of Central China.
“This agency, once it comes into being, will deal exclusively with nuclear and missile intelligence. The agencies carrying out this work now function under the JIC but the committee is not exclusively for missile and nuclear intelligence,” he added. The new agency will function directly under the National Security Council and will be accountable for all inputs from the neighbouring region on developments related to missile and nuclear technology.
This proposal was first mooted by a joint task force on intelligence headed by former JIC chief S D Pradhan. Two other members of the task force are former IB director P C Haldar and scientist Roddam Narasimha. The task force was constituted at the behest of Narayanan himself and it has submitted its report to the government.
Delingha missiles base in Tibet China
Similarly, a separate centre for maritime intelligence is also likely to be cleared by CCS. This centre will work as pivot around which all intelligence agencies involved in maritime security will function. Intel centres to keep tabs on China’s missiles, navy. Sachin Parashar, TNN 18 July 2009, 02:41am IST
The PLA’s land-based ballistic and cruise missile force consists of 38 operational missile units spread throughout the country. The missile force is heavily oriented towards mobile short and theater range systems, with only eight facilities supporting ICBMs. This lethal mix of missiles now threatens an almost defenseless Delhi whose missiles don’t really work, and whose nuclear explosions are the subject of much doubt and debate even inside Bharat.
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Two weeks after photographs of China’s nuclear submarines set alarm bells ringing for the Indian authorities, a commercial satellite has revealed a launching site for over 50 nuclear ballistic missiles, capable of striking all north Indian cities.
According to commercial satellite images analysed by the Federation of American Scientists (FAS), China has significantly reorganized the launching facilities near Delingha in the northern parts of Central China, said Hans Kristensen, a researcher with FAS.
The medium-range missiles also have Russia within striking range.
“From these launch pads for DF-21 missiles, southern Russia and northern India would be within range, but not Japan, Taiwan or Guam,” Kristensen added.
The DF-21 is a medium-range ballistic missile estimated by the US Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) to have a range of approximately 1,330 miles (2,150 kilometers). It is China’s first solid-fuel ballistic missile and believed to carry a single warhead with a yield of 200-300 kilo-tonnes.
“The US government often highlights China’s deployment of new mobile missiles as a concern but keeps the details secret, so the discovery of the deployment area provides the first opportunity for the public to better understand how China operates its mobile ballistic missiles,” Kristensen said.
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The revelation has come two weeks after satellite images of the Chinese Navy’s upcoming base at Hainan Island, 1,200 nautical miles from the strategic Malacca Strait and an access route to the Indian Ocean, has set off alarm bells across the Indian establishment.
The latest images were posted along with Kristensen’s analysis on the website of the Federation of American Scientists. Kristensen said the imagery revealed missile launch sites along a 275-kilometer (170 miles) stretch of highway leading from the city of Delingha through Da Qaidam to Mahai in the northern part of Qinghai province.
Thirty-six launch pads were arrayed in three strings extending north of the highway and west of Delingha. Another 22 launch pads were detected in an area running west of Da Qaidam to Mahai, according to Kristensen’s analysis. newsx.com/story/9976. Chinese nuclear missile base has north India in sight, Fri-May 16, 2008, New Delhi / NewsX Bureau with IANS inputs
The Aviation world and defense analysts have watched in amazement as the the Red dragon has gained military prowess in missile, space and air craft technology. China has gained technological independence which means that The terms 4th generation and 5th generation fighters are thrown about without regard to technical ability. This article sheds light on the Air Force parlance as well as the current status of the Chinese Air Crafts which have already crossed the 4th generation threshold (China crosses Military Technology Independence Threshold). According to press reports and defense analysts China is now producing the 5th generation air craft without active help of the Russians.
Mr. Richard D. Fisher is a senior fellow at the International Assessment and Strategy Center. He is the author of “China’s Military Modernization: Building for Regional and Global Reach. He has recently written an article about the prowess of the Chinese Air Force. Much of what he has written is based on information which is three to five years old. However the article does identify some major points which we have republished here on Rupee News and Military Strategy. We closely watch the trends and have monitored the development of the J-10, J-10b as well as the J-11 much more closely than Mr. Fischer. The bottom line of Mr. Fisher’s article is that the Chinese have developed their own 5th generation air craft and this military prowess challenges the US supremacy in a significant way.
Both our analysis and Mr. Fischer’s review clearly show that the new aircrafts do not eliminate the air superiority of the US in any manner, however it is pedagogical to note that Chinese military and aviation advancement is right up there and in some ways challenges the air of various countries on its borders.
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- Beyond the Chinese made J-10s: — the J-11s
- J-10B: Advances in electronics and engines enable the new “four-plus” generation fighters that recently were tested withthe help of active feedback from the Pakistani Air Force withhas extensive experience with American and French fighter–something the Chinese PLA Air Force lacks.
- These fighters and the Chinese fifth-generation fighters will pose a more effective challenge to current and future U.S. air forces, and will make obsolete the fourth-generation fighter fleets of Japan, South Korea and Taiwan
- J-11 and beyond: The Chengdu Aircraft Corporation, famous for developing the fourth-generation J-10 fighter has developed a medium-weight fifth-generation plane comparable to the F-35 with built in vertical take-off and aircraft carrier versions.
- The competing Shenyang Aircraft Corporation has built a single-engine forward-swept-wing highly maneuverable and stealthy fighter.
- The PLA envisions two levels to its program: a heavy fighter for maintaining air superiority, and a medium-weight plane that’s cheaper and more versatile.
- The U.S. Navy currently has no program for a fifth-generation fighter as good as the F-22, but instead intends to rely on the slower F-35C, which is optimized for attack missions.
Pakistan has been pushing the frontiers of the J-10s and the J-11s in terms of structural redisgn, cockpit improvement, increased thrust power for the engines, Beyond Visual Range and other latest innovations. Thus the end result is a new plane which is vastly superior than what it would have been without Pakistani input and help.
Chinese technology exports to Pakistan: JF-17 Thunder, J-10s, J-11s. This alliance has propelled the aircraft manufacturing of China to new levels and given the Pakistanis access to Chinese acumen which it did not have before. JF-17 Thunders
ZHUKOVSKY, Russia—Withfew exceptions, Beijing rarely says much of substance about its ongoing military build-up or its strategic thinking. But the overriding message from the recent Moscow Airshow and other airshows, plus occasional interviews with Chinese and Russian engineers, is that Beijing is not conceding next-generation air superiority to anyone, least of all the United States.
Exhibit A is Beijing’slong-running effort to build a fifth-generation fighter plane equivalent to the U.S. F-22 and F-35. Such planes use extensive stealth and advanced radar and can usually “supercruise,” or fly supersonically for extended periods without using fuel-guzzling afterburners. In what may be the only public reference to the program by a Chinese official, the Commander of the People’s Liberation Army Navy mentioned their requirement for a fighter capable of “supersonic cruise” during 60thanniversary celebrations in April. Today this can only be achieved by the U.S. F-22A Raptor, the world’s only operational fifth-generation fighter.
To be sure, China faces many technical obstacles. Development of advanced engines capable of 15-ton thrust levels is a particularly serious bottleneck. But China’s fifth-generation efforts date back to the early 1990s and will start with two heavy fighters from China’s two main fighter companies. A Chinese source told me in early 2005 that the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation, famous for developing the fourth-generation J-10 fighter, was considering the development of a medium-weight fifth-generation plane comparable to the F-35. This could mean that Chengdu’s fighter will be built in vertical take-off and aircraft carrier versions. In 2006, the competing Shenyang Aircraft Corporation revealed a concept for a single-engine forward-swept-wing fighter that would be highly maneuverable and potentially stealthy. It seems the PLA envisions two levels to its program: a heavy fighter for maintaining air superiority, and a medium-weight plane that’s cheaper and more versatile.
Even before China’s fifth-generation fighter flies, advances in electronics and engines will enable new “four-plus” generation fighters, like the J-10B that recently began flight testing. These fighters and eventual fifth-generation fighters will pose a more effective challenge to current and future U.S. air forces, and will make obsolete the fourth-generation fighter fleets of Japan, South Korea and Taiwan. The U.S. Navy currently has no program for a fifth-generation fighter as good as the F-22, but instead intends to rely on the slower F-35C, which is optimized for attack missions. SEPTEMBER 1, 2009, 4:38 P.M. ET China Puts Up a Fighter Beijing’s fifth-generation military challenge to the U.S. By RICHARD D. FISHER JR
The Pakistanis pushed the Chinese for the JF-17 Thunder design improvement. The Pakistanis have a distinct advantage that the Chinese don’t have. Islamabad has the experience with Western technology, begining with the F-104, and the F-86 Sabres and ending with the latest F-16s. This has taken the JF-17 Thunder to new technological heights, specially because it has been upgraded with European technological innovation and duplicated Russian and American goodies.
Mr. Fischer says that the Chinese 5th generation air craft make the Korean and Japanese fleet obsolete. Of course the Chinese are so far ahead of the Bharati (aka Indians) that it is not even funny. Bharat is just now beginning to purchase stripped down versions of the 3rd-4th generation air carft from Russia and the US. The Bharativenture to jointly “develop” an aircraft with the Russians has ended up as a fiasco as the Russians pretty much went ahead and developed the air craft and are selling Bharat the ‘export” (read severely downgraded) versions of its Su and Mig air craft. Russia used to need Bharati Dollars to sell it all the junk it could (Mig 21 Flying Coffins, the New Flying Coffins, obsolete Air craft carriers at twice the price, missiles that don’t work) not pawn off elsewhere. Bharat’s efforts at diversification have also been a dismal failure, as Israeli missiles have not worked either.
The PLAaims to use these programs as a vehicle for beefing up its research and development capacity to reduce its reliance on Russian and other foreign technologies. A Ukrainian source here disclosed that his company is in discussions withChengdu-associated institutes on the development of what could become a second fifth-generation engine program for China. But an official with the Sukhoifighter company, which has sold many planes to China, stated pointedly that they are not helping China withits fifth-generation program. They’re cooperating withIndia instead on New Delhi’s own fifth-generation fighter development. Russia’s main reason appears to be business; China has not signed a treaty protecting intellectual property. China could be motivated by technological nationalism.
China’s moves to go it alone could have several consequences. Beijing’s current reliance on Russian technologies effectively gives Moscow a veto over China’s sales of its planes to third parties. As Beijing gains expertise designing its own indigenous engines, it will free itself from this constraint, allowing greater latitude to sell advanced fighters for its own aims. The new J-10B may already be slated for Pakistan, advancing the arms race on the Indian subcontinent.
There are worrying signs that the U.S. either does not fully appreciate the consequences of Chinese advanced fourth-generation and fifth-generation fighters entering the market, or is willfully ignoring them. In July, Defense Secretary Robert Gates publicly predicted that by 2020 “nearly 1,100 [combat aircraft in the U.S. Air Force] will be the most advanced fifth-generation F-35s and F-22s. China, by contrast, is projected to have no fifth-generation aircraft by 2020. And by 2025, the gap only widens.” Armed with this apparent assessment by the U.S. intelligence community, by the end of July the Obama administration had overruled congressional objections and stopped production of the F-22A at 187 by 2012.
This is a big gamble, and seems like a bad bet in light of China’s apparent determination to push forward with its own fifth-generation program. If this bet does go south, it could cost America future air superiority in the Pacific. It could deny a key U.S. ally, Japan, a significant non-nuclear means for deterring Chinese aggression. It could also be bad for the U.S. companies like Lockheed-Martin and Boeing commercially. Washington’s inability to offer a fifth-generation “champion” fighter could push South Korea and Japan to turn to French technologies to develop their own fifth-generation programs.
Mr. Gates and the U.S. intelligence community could prove to be correct, but they have so far offered little public data to explain the prediction that has served to justify such a potentially fateful decision. Meanwhile, despite the PLA’s lack of meaningful transparency Beijing’sown goals are crystal clear. It would be far smarter for the U.S. to prepare for the likelihood that Beijing will develop and build far more than 187 fifth-generation air-superiority fighters. Mr. Fisher is a senior fellow with the International Assessment and Strategy Center and is the author of “China’s Military Modernization: Building for Regional and Global Reach” (Preager, 2008). SEPTEMBER 1, 2009, 4:38 P.M. ET China Puts Up a Fighter Beijing’s fifth-generation military challenge to the U.S. By RICHARD D. FISHER JR.
According to reliable sources China has been able to duplicate the SU-27, the most lethal bird in the air. The Chinese version of the Sukhoi SU-27 (Flanker) is now called the J-11. The Su-30MKI (another derivative of the SU-27), a heavy-class fighter, with the F-16C Block 50, F-16C Block 60, and F-18E/F aircraft is largely theoretical. The American Fighters belong to conceptually different fighter classes and have their own, preferential areas of combat employment. The F-18E/F version, owing to the F/A-18 basic design, features a more pronounced strike-mission capability, while in terms of dimensions, this aircraft is close to the Russian fighter.
Many countries with enormous resources and tremendous backing have tried to produce airplanes. The huge failures of the Brazilians (version of the SU 27) and the Israelis (Lavi) are in written in stone. Even the Indian efforts at domestic production of missiles and planes (LCA-Tejas, and other) is checkered with colossal failures. See report on this site by the Indian head of the Airforce. The Indian flying coffins, as well as the first Indian plane are pretty much grounded as is the Indian missile program
In the event that the Indian Air Force decides to procure massive numbers of Western 4.5 generation fighters, beyond the 126 MRCA, while increasing the Su-30MKI numbers and upgrades their MiG-29s and Mirage-2000s, the PAF has a clear charted path in increasing JF-17s and FC-20s, having by then set up the infrastructure and training for these planes. Further, the JF-17s would not only allow PAF to counter numbers, but also allow her to maintain larger numbers of FC-20s and F-16s for war-time and lower their depreciation – providing a low cost training aircraft to fly liberally during peacetime. This would be a similar arrangement to how the Israeli Air Force uses F-16s to keep meet the flight time allocations of its F-15 pilots. Grande Strategy
The airplanes in the Russian inventory are:
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SU-27 a fourth generation fighter
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SU33, and SU35 derivatives of the 4th generation SU-27s
The Pakistanis should be tight lipped about the new Chinese fighter and whether Pakistan is going to acquire any. The Chinese in a sweet deal of $2.5 Billion with the Russians purchased the right to produce the SK-27. The J-11 is a “third generation” aircraft.
Now, the efforts in China and Pakistan are underway to move to the air-forces to the latest planes like SU-27K which is now called SU-33.
What about the SU-35? The original Su-35 was a derivative of the Su-27 and essentially a ground-based variant of the Su-33. While the official Russian Air Force designation for the aircraft remained the Su-27M, Sukhoi rechristened the model as the Su-35 in the hopes of attracting foreign customers. The Brazilians wanted to produce it but in the end opted for the Mirage IIIs.
The Brazilian decision appeared to have ended the Su-35 program once and for all since Sukhoi had little success finding other customers. Hopes were briefly revived in May 2006 when Venezuela announced interest in the Su-35, but the nation instead chose a variant of the Su-30. The move is largely politically-motivated given recent tensions between Venezuela and the United States over America’s ban on providing support for the Venezuelan F-16 fleet. the Su-35 was revived at least in name in 2007 when Sukhoi announced the aircraft had entered production for the Russian Air Force. This incarnation is also a derivative of the Su-27
A derivative of the Su-27 ‘Flanker’, the Su-37 is a super-maneuverable thrust vectoring fighter. Designed from an Su-35 prototype, the Su-37 test aircraft (designated T10M-11) made its maiden flight in April 1996 from the Zhukovsky flight testing center near Moscow. The Su-37 is first Russian aircraft to feature thrust vectoring control comparable to the F-22 Raptor. (www.globalaircraft.org/planes/su-37_flanker.pl)
There are indications that Chengdu is becoming a major cooperation hub for Pakistan and China. Hints are flying that more is brewing at Chengdu than the FC-1 and the J-10 sourced from the ever reliable pshamim of pakdef. Apparently a consulate and a halal restaurant is opening up to accommodate the soft side of all these project ventures. Personally I would like to see a single engined stealth fighter come out of Chengdu, as much as the reports are that its going to be a twin engined plane. Whatever is cooking in Chengdu, its likely to be halal for the PAF. Grande Strategy
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NEW YORK | RUPEE NEWS | Feb. 24th, 2008 | Moin Ansari | A grand success story. Pakistan and China designed, prototyped and built the JF-17 Thunder faster than any other aircraft. Pakistan did it in four years–and according to Indian sources “left the Indian Light Combat Aricraft (LCA ) in the dust.”The WD-93 (Russian engine) JF-17 Thunder is now competing with the Korean and fighters. Pakistan’s indigenous JF-17 Thunders Fighter Plane
Pakistan has rapidly moved from the design and development stage to deployment and operationalization phases of the JF-17 Thunder and beyond. Pakistan is working with China to imporve to the J-10s and the J-11s. Already the Pakistan feedback has paid its dividends in the newer versions of the J-10s and the J-11.
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This success story of developing arms in Pakistan is not limited to the JF-17 thunder. The Nuclear bomb, the missiles and the tanks were all produced in record time, considering that Pakistan had only one dysfunctional Textile Mill, one dilapidated University, and one archaic Jute Mill in 1947. No other country has come so far in defense production in such a short period of time. It took the Japanese from the Meiji revolution of 1893 to 1940 to produce the deadly aircrafts that devastated Pearl Harbor. The first American missiles and the entire Apollo program was built on Von Braun’s German technology. The Russian program was similarly also based on the German programs. In fact the first V2-rockets in the Museums in Washington are simply German rocket painted red 9for Russia) and other colors for America.
Pakistan’s defence industry contains over 20 major public sector units (PSUs) and over 100 private-sector firms. The majority of major weapons systems production and assembly is undertaken by the state-owned PSUs, while the private-sector supplies parts, components, bladed weapons and field equipment. Major PSUs include the Pakistan Ordnance Factory (POF), Heavy Industries Taxila (HIT), Karachi Shipyard and Engineering Works (KSEW) and the Pakistan Machine Tool Factory. Multinational presence in Pakistan is limited, although joint production or engineering support in the development of certain armaments has recently occurred with companies such as DCN International and the Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group.
In November 2008, Ministry of Defence Production Secretary Shahid Siddiq Tirmizi announced that as many as eight countries have expressed interest in acquiring the newly launched JF-17 Thunder fighter, a China-Pakistan joint venture. Tirmizi expects that 800 or more could be produced once sale agreements have been reached. The Pakistan Air Force has been putting the new jet through its paces with a series of trials and technical evaluations. Other defence products of Pakistani extraction garnering interest in international circles include unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), air defence systems, tank simulators, and anti-tank guided missiles. Tirmizi noted that between 2006 and 2008, Pakistan had exported US$400mn worth of defence products. Live PR
The Pakistanis pushed the Chinese for the JF-17 Thunder design improvement. The Pakistanis have a distinct advantage that the Chinese don’t have. Islamabad has the experience with Western technology, begining with the F-104, and the F-86 Sabres and ending with the latest F-16s. This has taken the JF-17 Thunder to new technological heights, specially because it has been upgraded with European technological innovation and duplicated Russian and American goodies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBmmCazGDGI&feature=player_embedded
Pakistan is now pushing the frontiers of the J-10s and the J-11s in terms of structural redisgn, cockpit improvement, increased thrust power for the engines, Beyond Visual Range and other latest innovations. Thus the end result is a new plane which is vastly superior than what it would have been without Pakistani input and help.
Chinese technology exports to Pakistan: JF-17 Thunder, J-10s, J-11s. This alliance has propelled the aircraft manufacturing of China to new levels and given the Pakistanis access to Chinese acumen which it did not have before. JF-17 Thunders
Beyond the JF-17 Thunders. The J-10s etc
Pakistan’s 250 JF-17s, 50 F-16: India’s panicky “concern”.
Pakistan is also producing the cheap Adam car which will compete with Chinese, and Japanese models (http://www.adammotor.com/daily_dawn.htm).
Pakistan is in midst of building about 500 JF-17 Thunder fighters, probably the biggest build up of planes in the history of the world. This is one of the greatest achievements of the Pakistani government in the past 8 years. This project removes the Pakistani defense from the shackles of foreign government. One can argue about the comparison with 4th generation American state-of-the-art planes, but this much is clear—it was designed for Pakistan, and is being produced in Pakistan. Serious plans are underway to upgrade the plane to new levels.
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…procurement is critical for PAF as it needs a quality high end to counter the larger IAF with her MKIs, Mirage-2000s and MRCA. With a new sensor rich environment dominated by AWACS on both sides and a large number of BVR platforms, higher altitude BVR engagements would become vital. J-10s are ideally suited for such combat given their aerodynamics including low wing loading in an A2A configuration. The instantaneous turn rates achievable on the J-10 (or the Euro canards) are likely to give an advantage in such engagements, as opposed to the high wing loadings on the over-evolved F-16s which were essentially designed for turning dog fights rather than high altitude BVR slash and dash maneuvers.
With the AESA equipped new J-10Bs, higher thrust engines and better EW/Avionics, PAF would reclaim the qualitative edge over the IAF. These J-10s would be superior in air combat than anything that the IAF fields today and would only be matched by a possible MRCA acquisition by India. Even then, with the 5 present contenders left in the MRCA, only the Eurofighter (assuming AESA radars) would be able to match the J-10 in air-to-air combat.
The PAF is looking for a total of 150 high end aircraft like the F-16 Block 52s and the FC-20 (J-10Bs or J-10Ps). The FC-20s could be procured in greater numbers, depending on relations with the U.S. and the operability of the F-16s. The J-10Ps and the JF-17s make a perfect pair – one ideal for high altitude air superiority and deep strike missions while the other ideal as a true multirole fighter. Where the J-10 lacks in deep strike, the F-16s make up for it. Where the J-10s lack in CAS, the JF-17s make up for it. Where the JF-17 lacks in high altitude BVR engagements, the J-10s make up for it.
The J-10s, F-16s and JF-17s also fit into the AFFDP-2019 requirements. The AFFDP-2019 is the core document on the strategic planning of Pakistan’s armed forces over 15 years. While this document is not available in the public domain, informed sources note that the PAF has been assigned procurement of only single engine combat aircraft. The J-10Ps/FC-20s coupled with the JF-17s and F-16s thus ideally meet these requirements.
In the event that the Indian Air Force decides to procure massive numbers of Western 4.5 generation fighters, beyond the 126 MRCA, while increasing the Su-30MKI numbers and upgrades their MiG-29s and Mirage-2000s, the PAF has a clear charted path in increasing JF-17s and FC-20s, having by then set up the infrastructure and training for these planes. Further, the JF-17s would not only allow PAF to counter numbers, but also allow her to maintain larger numbers of FC-20s and F-16s for war-time and lower their depreciation – providing a low cost training aircraft to fly liberally during peacetime. This would be a similar arrangement to how the Israeli Air Force uses F-16s to keep meet the flight time allocations of its F-15 pilots. Grande Strategy
Many countries with enormous resources and tremendous backing have tried to produce airplanes. The huge failures of the Brazilians (version of the SU 27) and the Israelis (Lavi) are in written in stone. Even the Indian efforts at domestic production of missiles and planes (LCA-Tejas, and other) is checkered with colossal failures. See report on this site by the Indian head of the Airforce. The Indian flying coffins, as well as the first Indian plane are pretty much grounded as is the Indian missile program.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBmmCazGDGI&feature=player_embedded
This production is a magnificent example of Concurrent Engineering. The Pakistan JF-Thunder aircraft is going through a major upgrade in avionics, and a switch in engines to a Chinese version of the WD-93 called the WS-13. This is fascinating for all engineers. The airplane is being produced in mass, and new development is also happening concurrently. Efforts are already underway to produce the WS-13 engine locally, and upgrade the avionics with the latest French, German and Italian technology. Pakistan will export the older versions of the plane to Khazikistan and other countries. Khazakistan will make it more difficult for Armenia. This may change the balance of power in many regions, specially if Sri Lanks gets the JF-17 Thunder. The Sri Lankan Airforce may get an unprecedented advantage over the marauding mercenary terrorists who come over from Indian Tamil-land in increasing numbers. This may be done at the expense of requesting a Pakistan base in Sri Lanka.
The PAF is looking to add as much potency as possible, within its budget constraints; shopping for avionics from Western sources to add further potential to its JF-17s and FC-20s. Thus far, Chinese developments have been so rapid that by the time decisions were to be made at the PAF, the Chinese would meet or exceed requirements and the competition at a lower price. It remains to be seen if this can be pulled off again by the Chinese when PAF goes shopping for the next block of JF-17s and the new FC-20s. For the FC-20s, EW, cockpit interface and reliability of the new Chinese AESA radar will play a critical role. The PAF is meanwhile keeping open options with European equivalents, including the M-AESA (Multi-role Active Electronically Scanned Antenna) being developed by Saab and Selex and a French AESA, yet to be revealed. Grande Strategy
Pakistan used the earthquake as the perfect opportunity to gently turn down the offer of 60 F-16s (block 50) to Pakistan and reduced the number of American planes to be purchased. The Pakistanis then further diversified the Pakistan Air Force (PAF). In Pakistani minds, the US is an unreliable arms supplier. Pakistan has suffered many times by American sanctions. President Musharraf and PAF head was invited to China to evaluate China’s latest toy, at the time, the J-10.
The Pakistan Air Force (PAF) has shown a great deal of interest in the J-10 project as a possible substitute for Western combat aircraft for its high end requirements. The PAF, however, wanted a more modern version. Just as the FC-1s (and before the FC-1, the F-7s) were significantly upgraded due to the PAF’s push for improvements, the J-10 appears to be going through a similar phase. The reason for this is that the PAF has a far closer view of Western technologies and trends and thus can provide deeper insight than more insulated Chinese expertise. The J-10B in all likelihood has had major input from the PAF and is the FC-20 that the PAF has ordered. Grande Strategy
Now reports are surfacing that China has been able to duplicate the SU-27, the most lethal bird in the air. The Chinese version of the Sukhoi SU-27 (Flanker) is now called the J-11. The Su-30MKI (another derivative of the SU-27), a heavy-class fighter, with the F-16C Block 50, F-16C Block 60, and F-18E/F aircraft is largely theoretical. The American Fighters belong to conceptually different fighter classes and have their own, preferential areas of combat employment. The F-18E/F version, owing to the F/A-18 basic design, features a more pronounced strike-mission capability, while in terms of dimensions, this aircraft is close to the Russian fighter.
The J-10B incorporates a new small ECM housing on the vertical stabilizer and this stabilizer also appears to be longer and ending in a “shark-fin”. The ECM housing is similar to the housing on the JF-17. The two ventral fins are also extended further and are larger irrespective of the shark-fin. The aerodynamic refinements of the longer vertical stabilizer and the ventral fins appear to be a result of the DSI intakes which create greater lateral forces on the aircraft.
The wide angle HUD featured on the J-11Bs seem to have also appeared on the J-10B. While it cannot be confirmed, it appears that the cockpit itself has been redesigned extensively. Other than the new ECM housing on the vertical stabilizer, new MAWs appear on the tail bump. Just below these, curious breaks appear on the fuselage that some observers are referring to as possible formation lights “slime lights”, but expert opinion from a Lockheed Martin source suggest that they are FLIR sensors. A redesigned satellite communication unit appears right behind the cockpit.
A retractable refueling probe is likely, given the development of the J-10 thus far, and is possibly located on the port side, not visible in the latest photographs. The photographs also suggest new under-wing pylons. These appear to be strengthened for a variety of possible uses, ranging from larger drop tanks to ASMs.
The engine is likely to be either a redesigned WS-10A (B?) or possibly the WS-15, a new generation engine currently in advanced development. This would not only have higher thrust than the AL-31s, but also feature TVCs, giving the J-10Bs vaunted agility an even greater boost. The actual engine on the aircraft presently on the released pictures, is the AL-31.
Like the J-10S, a J-10BS is also eventually likely. This would be an advanced trainer with the 360 degree view similar to the J-10S. EW/Wild Weasel variants could also eventually be possible. Grande Strategy
China crosses Military Technology Independence Threshold
The airplanes in the Russian inventory are:
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SU-27 a fourth generation fighter
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SU33, and SU35 derivatives of the 4th generation SU-27s
The Pakistanis should be tight lipped about the new Chinese fighter and whether Pakistan is going to acquire any. The Chinese in a sweet deal of $2.5 Billion with the Russians purchased the right to produce the SK-27. The J-11 is a “third generation” aircraft.
Now, the efforts in China and Pakistan are underway to move to the air-forces to the latest planes like SU-27K which is now called SU-33.
What about the SU-35? The original Su-35 was a derivative of the Su-27 and essentially a ground-based variant of the Su-33. While the official Russian Air Force designation for the aircraft remained the Su-27M, Sukhoi rechristened the model as the Su-35 in the hopes of attracting foreign customers. The Brazilians wanted to produce it but in the end opted for the Mirage IIIs.
The Brazilian decision appeared to have ended the Su-35 program once and for all since Sukhoi had little success finding other customers. Hopes were briefly revived in May 2006 when Venezuela announced interest in the Su-35, but the nation instead chose a variant of the Su-30. The move is largely politically-motivated given recent tensions between Venezuela and the United States over America’s ban on providing support for the Venezuelan F-16 fleet. the Su-35 was revived at least in name in 2007 when Sukhoi announced the aircraft had entered production for the Russian Air Force. This incarnation is also a derivative of the Su-27
A derivative of the Su-27 ‘Flanker’, the Su-37 is a super-maneuverable thrust vectoring fighter. Designed from an Su-35 prototype, the Su-37 test aircraft (designated T10M-11) made its maiden flight in April 1996 from the Zhukovsky flight testing center near Moscow. The Su-37 is first Russian aircraft to feature thrust vectoring control comparable to the F-22 Raptor. (www.globalaircraft.org/planes/su-37_flanker.pl)
Here is a F-16 side by side with the SU-37.
MOSCOW, February 21 (RIA Novosti) – China has built a domestic copy of the famed Su-27 Flanker fighter and may compete with Russia on third-party markets if it sets up the full-scale production of the plane, a Russian daily said on Thursday.
China has acquired 76 Su-27SK fighters from Russia since 1992, and bought a license for production of another 200 planes in 1995, in a deal worth $2.5 billion.
“Since 1996, the domestic version of the Su-27 aircraft, dubbed J-11, has been produced at the Shenyang Aircraft Corporation (SAC) with the use of Russian components,” the Vedomosti newspaper said.
The licensed production of the Su-27 has given China its most capable fighter aircraft while also providing a vehicle for its industry to gain knowledge of third-generation fighter manufacturing, Vedomosti said.
About 95 aircraft had been produced in China by 2003. However, the 1995 agreement did not include the transfer of avionics and AL-31F turbofan engine technology, and the Chinese manufacturers had to rely on the Russian supply of these systems.
In 2004, China requested that Russia’s Sukhoi aircraft manufacturer stop deliveries of the assembly kits, stating that the basic variant of the Su-27SK/J-11 fighter could no longer satisfy Chinese Air Force requirements.
But the Russian sources insist that China’s decision was prompted by an increased share of domestic components in the assembly of the licensed aircraft and breakthroughs in engine manufacturing technology.
“The breakthrough in engine manufacturing technology allowed China to increase its share of domestically developed components and technologies from 70-75% to over 90%,” the newspaper cited an official from the Russian state-controlled arms exporter, Rosoboronexport, as saying.
In 2006, China revealed first official details about the domestically developed WS-10A Tai Hang turbofan engine, similar to the Russian AL-31F engine in both technology and performance.
China announced that the engine had been successfully tested on a modified Su-27K fighter, but Russian experts believe it is not reliable enough to start the full-scale production of the aircraft.
Rosoboron export and Chinese officials refused to comment on the latest developments in the situation regarding the licensed production of Su-27s in China.
Meanwhile, Konstantin Makiyenko from the Russian Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, believes that if China manages to launch a full-scale production of the indigenous copy of the Su-27, it would easily push Russia from third-party markets, and it would be difficult to prove a violation of the license agreement.
Su-27 Flanker and its variant, Su-30 Flanker C, constitute the bulk of Russia’s arms exports. Last year, Sukhoi exported 50 of these aircraft, accounting for 50% of Rosoboron export’s export revenues, Vedomosti said.
The newspaper also noted that China had a long history of copying Russian aircraft. Chinese J-6 and J-7 fighters were modeled after MiG-19 Farmer and MiG-21 Fishbed, H-6 bomber – after Tu-16 Badger, and Y-5, Y-7 and Y-8 transport planes – after An-2 Colt, An-24 Coke and An-12 Cub, respectively. RIA Novosti
Chinese technology exports to Pakistan: JF-17 Thunder, J-10s, J-11s. This alliance has propelled the aircraft manufacturing of China to new levels and given the Pakistanis access to Chinese acumen which it did not have before. JF-17 Thunders
Beyond the JF-17 Thunders. The J-10s etc
Pakistan’s 250 JF-17s, 50 F-16: Indias panicky “concern”.
There are some new developments on the JF-17 Thunder development and the latest news about the increases cooperation between the Pakistanis and the Chinese. We reported the WS-13 development in the February of 2008. Now Grande Strategy is also discussing the same issue. However Grande Strategy does not mention the latest development on this matter. Pakistan has also working with European and American engine manufacturers to develop the local Pakistani version of the WS-13. Additionally though Grande Strategy does mention some of the newer Avionics, it does not mention the latest on the Beyond Visual Range (BVR). Great strides have been made by the Chinese in improving BVR in the J-10s and the J-11s. Obviously this technology does flow down to the JF-17 Thunders. Pakistan has also worked with the Turks and the Europeans in enhancing the BVR capability.
What’s Cooking in Chengdu
There are indications that Chengdu is becoming a major cooperation hub for Pakistan and China. Hints are flying that more is brewing at Chengdu than the FC-1 and the J-10 sourced from the ever reliable pshamim of pakdef. Apparently a consulate and a halal restaurant is opening up to accommodate the soft side of all these project ventures. Personally I would like to see a single engined stealth fighter come out of Chengdu, as much as the reports are that its going to be a twin engined plane. Whatever is cooking in Chengdu, its likely to be halal for the PAF.
Future Modernization Roadmap
I think the future modernization of the JF-17 in PAF service will be along two more blocks – first 50, next 100 and final 100. It may be that the first 50 will be modernized after the last block.
The first 50 will include Chinese avionics and weapons, RD-93 engines and at best a foreign IR missile. The second block is likely to incorporate the WS-13 engine, Western radar and missiles and various augmenting sensors. These may include the Selex Vixen radar and the MBDA Meteor or perhaps the AMRAAM. The reason for this is that the SD-10 is untested, and AESA radar development is still not mature in China. Further, the SD-10 is a bit heavier than its Western counterparts and is less suited for the light fighter class than say, the Mica or the AMRAAM would be. AMRAAM of course would be ideal given that there would be commonality with the F-16s. Even if an AESA is not bought for the second batch, a western radar that allows the integration of the AMRAAM, even if it is not necessarily more advanced than the KLJ-7 would definitely be welcome. A HMD/S such as the Guardian or the Cobra with a HOBS missile would also be something the PAF is likely to be looking at. Some minor stealth features may also be incorporated in the second block.
The third block would possibly incorporate a Chinese AESA and perhaps a Chinese ramjet BVR missile (given that the speculated Meteor buy does not go through).
It is also likely to be more stealthier than any previous blocks. I would personally like to see provision for two BVRs to be kept semi-recessed, centerline and one behind the other, while the IR missiles stay on the wing tip. This could be a good trade-off between stealth and performance on a limited airframe.
A few readily available upgrades can also be borrowed from the J-11 program, including the new 3D holographic wide angel HUD and the optical missile approach-warning receiver. These should go into the JF-17s from the very first block.
RD-93 / WS-13
One of the bigger issues with the RD-93 is its inability to be completely smoke free. While it has been significantly decreased, some smokiness still remains. No such problem is likely to exist with the WS-13. Reliability and MTBF as well as better fuel efficiency are key elements where the WS-13 also likely trumps the RD-93.
What is however truly impressive about the RD-93 and even considering all its misgivings, is the acceleration and quick response it can achieve. The engines’ response is virtually instantaneous. Whether the WS-13 can match this would be interesting to note, although perhaps not as relevant or important. Below are the available specifications of the WS-13 and the RD-93.
Other Features of Note
Single crystal turbine blade technology
8 axial pressure compressor
We have already discussed the RD-93 vs WS-13 issue. We do take strong umbrage at Grade Strategy for referring to the JF-17 Thunder as FC-1. The JF-17 Thunder is not the FC-1.
Multi-role combat version of the Su-27, developed from the Su-35. The Su-37 uses full digital FBW controls in combination with two- dimensional thrust vectoring nozzles. Like the Su-35, it has canards. The Su-37 is not yet in production.
Type: Su-37
Function: fighter
Year: 1996
Crew: 1
Engines: 2 * 137kN Saturn AL-37FU
Wing Span: 14.70 m
Length: 22.10 m
Height: 6.32 m
Wing Area:
Empty Weight: 18500 kg
Max.Weight: 34000 kg
Speed: 2400 km/h
Ceiling: 17800 m
Range:
Armament: 1*g30mm 8000 kg
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Appendix A
J-10 Vs F-16 Technical Comparison
The F-16 was designed from the outset as a dog-fighter. The moderate sweep of the wings and aspect ratios were ideal for this. The trade-off however, was greater supersonic resistance. The thrust offered by the two engine options on the F-16 is impressive even to this day. TWR in air combat is about 1.15, ensuring impressive climbing rates and sustained turn rates. As noted, the F-16 sacrificed supersonic performance, not only in its wing design but also in its fixed air intakes. In supersonic flight, engine thrust is lost. While it can reach Mach 2.0, pragmatically it has poor supersonic performance.
While the F-16 sacrificed supersonic performance for subsonic dogfighting, the J-10 did not make the same sacrifice. Thus, while when the F-16 was designed, turning dogfights were what was projected as the bread and butter of air combat, when the J-10 was being designed, the BVR era had arrived (or re-arrived). The J-10s aerodynamic design, including wing design and inlet design, take this into account. For instance, the J-10 visibly has greater wing sweep and a variable inlet. With the J-10B, a DSI intake. While the J-10B sacrifices m
aximum theoretical top speeds with its DSI intakes, for all relevant combat speeds, it gives the J-10 superior performance.
Under modern BVR conditions and higher altitude combat, the J-10 is significantly superior to the F-16. This is also reflected in its higher instantaneous turn rates. The Mirage-2000s have been a point of major concern both for the Pakistanis and the Turkish air forces, because of these aerodynamic issues, despite the Mirages weak engines. The Greeks, who operated both the Mirage 2000 and F-16C considered the F-16 to be better at low altitude, low speed, hard turning fights, and Mirage 2000 to be superior at hi-hi.The F-16 would have to attempt to survive the first merge in an air combat scenario, which becomes increasingly suicidal with high off-bore sight missiles. BVR further compounds these problems for the F-16s. In previous eras, flying hi and fast was fine, but you often had to come down low to engage a low flying enemy aircraft. Today, that becomes less relevant with longer range BVR missiles and look-down shoot-down capabilities.
The F-16 has also been adding weight over time and attempting to counterbalance this with increased engine thrust. However, since wing area remained the same, maneuverability has been sacrificed. Higher wing loading is particularly detrimental for higher altitude maneuverability. The J-10 on the other hand, has all the wing area it could ever need with a delta canard layout.
The newer block F-16s however, are great for low altitude air-to-ground missions. The high wing loading favors low fliers and the moderate wing sweep helps handling at lower speeds often necessary during ordnance delivery. The J-10 is thus not ideal for the CAS role. However, because of the range and payload advantages, the J-10 can be considered an effective deep striker. CAS was never a pressing need for the PLAAF, and the PAF has the JF-17 which is ideal for that role.
Three Different J-10s?
The reported total estimated number of J-10s is 1,200. This figure is according to Russian sources from the Moscow Airshow and is also reported in the Department of Defense annual reports to the U.S. Congress on Chinese military modernization. Given these numbers would go to the various J-10 variants. This author’s view is that China has no limits set for the production of J-10s. They’ll take as many as Chengdu can produce. However, the real question is – which J-10?
Firstly, we have the First Generation J-10s with AL-31 engines. Chengdu was to follow these with a J-10A with WS-10A engines. This evolution has encountered obstacles related to reliability issues. The J-10B, represents a 4.5 generation plane but it remains to be seen what engine is used with this plane. Meanwhile, according to informed commentators, a J-10C with twin engines around the size of RD-33s and incorporating similar features to the J-10B has arrived. This is supposedly a direct competitor to the Eurofighter and has the same layout – twin engined canard delta with a single tail. The PLAAF will have to decide whether to go with the J-10B or the J-10C at some point. Pakistan will not go for the J-10C as the twin engines do not comply with their doctrine of single-engined fighters and with the AFFDP-2019.
A carrier based J-10 has also been reported but this is in direct competition with the J-13, a dedicated 4.5++ carrier fighter with a conventional layout similar to the F/A-18 Super Hornets. Lastly, we have a stealth 5th Generation evolution of the delta canard, but this has reportedly lost out to a conventional layout based on the F-22. Chengdu has reportedly not lost out completely but is taking part in the project jointly with Shenyang.
Chinese 5th Gen
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The 5th Generation Chinese stealth plane is what would eventually close down J-10 production. The XXJ or J-XX as it is often referred to, has been the subject of intense competition between China’s two premier fighter design institutions – CAC and SAC. While CAC’s 611 Institute lost the bid to SAC’s 601 Institute, both entities have begun joint development of the new fighter. How the rivalry plays out remains to be seen. It appears Chengdu has the upper hand as it is perceived to have been more successful. J-10 program director Liu Gaozhou recently stated that, ” we are researching and developing a fourth generation to meet the requirements of defending the motherland.” China’s fourth generation is of course, the 5th generation we refer to in the West.
The design is a conventional layout in direct similarity to the F-22. The J-XX will be powered by the WS-15, a new generation engine in development. Normal TO weight would roughly measure to 20 tons and thus be in the heavy fighter class.The J-XX would possibly be superior to all
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Various news reports are filtering int which shed light on the astronomical success of the Pakistani Nuclear program. Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal is expanding faster than any other nation’s. Independent analysts are astonished at the speed of development of new weapon systems and the robust testing and their operationalization. While the exact number of potent Pakistani Nuclear bombs is a closely guarded secret, the actual number of Pakistani Nuclear bombs is estimated to be more than 350. One such report comes from Mr. Hans Kristensen of the Federation of American Scientists. Mr. Kristrnsen’s information does not reveal new secrets. The entire world knows that the Shaheen II was displayed in a Pakistan Day parade in 2003. The planet also knows that Pakistan has been testing this long range missile since 2004. It has taken Pakistan about four years of intensive testing to perfec the Shaheen II missiles. Various new programs are germinated during testing. The fact that the Shaeen II has been operationalized should come as a surprise only to the very naive.
Work on the Raad and Babur missiles began a decade ago. Mr. Kristrnsen’s epiphany about the cruse missiles is a surprise and sheds some light on the investigatve strengths and weaknesses of the Federation of American Scientists. However independent confirmation of Pakistani announcements is always a good thing for all concerned.
Mr. Hans M. Kristensen has published this picture of the Masroor Air force base. Mr. Kristensen claims that Pakistani nuclear weapons are stored at the base. Even if they were, surely they are gone from this site now. Masroor is near Karachi, and it is unlikely that the weapons would be stored in a densly populated area.Hans M. Kristensen is Director of the Nuclear Information Project at the Federation of American Scientists where he provides the public with analysis and background information about the status of nuclear forces and the role of nuclear weapons. He specializes in using the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) in his research and is a frequent consultant to and is widely referenced in the news media on the role and status of nuclear weapons.
- Mr Kristensen wrote that Pakistan’s nuclear-capable Shaheen-II medium-range ballistic missile also appears to be approaching operational deployment after long preparation. (Development flight tests of the Shaheen-II began in March 2004 when a 26-ton missile was launched from Pakistan’s Somiani Flight Test Range on the Arabian Sea)..a 700-2,500km-range missile dubbed as the Shaheen-II, about which little is known.[30] Mock-ups of the missile displayed during the National Day celebrations in March 2003 suggest that it is a two-stage, solid-motor, road mobile system, transported on a 12-wheel TEL vehicle
- The Army test-launched two missiles within three days in April 2008, and the US Air Force National Air and Space Intelligence Centre (NASIC) reported in June 2009 that the weapon “probably will soon be deployed,” he noted.
- Two types of nuclear-capable cruise missiles are also under development —— the ground-launched Babur and the air-aunched Ra—ad, Mr Kristensen said.
- Two new plutonium production reactors and a second chemical separation facility are also under construction by Pakistan.
- Mr Kristensen said that the development of cruise missiles with nuclear capability is interesting because it suggests that Pakistan’s nuclear weapons designers have been successful in building smaller and lighter plutonium warheads.
Hatf-VI (IRBM) Shaheen II is Pakistan’s longest-range ballistic missile system with a range of 2000 kilometers and has the potential to achieve 2500 kilometers in an advanced version. It is a two-stage solid fuel missile which can carry nuclear and conventional warheads with high accuracy.
April 26, 2008: Pakistan announced that, after nearly a decade of development, its Hatf VI IRBM (Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile) is ready for service. The system, also called Shaheen II, has a range of 2,000 kilometers, can carry a nuclear warhead, and hit any part of India. At least a dozen of these missiles are being built, andmoved around on mobile transporter/launchers. The Hatf VI will be a major part of Pakistan’s nuclear deterrent against Indian invasion
… a 700-2,500km-range missile dubbed as the Shaheen-II, about which little is known.[30] Mock-ups of the missile displayed during the National Day celebrations in March 2003 suggest that it is a two-stage, solid-motor, road mobile system, transported on a 12-wheel TEL vehicle. Analysts speculate that the Shaheen-II is possibly a two-stage version of the M-9, or more likely a copy of the M-18, which was publicly displayed at an exhibition in Beijing in either 1987 or 1988. The M-18 was originally advertised as a two-stage system with a payload capacity of 400-500kg over a range of 1,000km.[31] U.S. intelligence sources suggest that Pakistan remains heavily reliant on external assistance for the Shaheen-II program and that China is actively assisting Pakistan through the supply of missile components, specialty materials, dual-use items, and other miscellaneous forms of technical assistance.[32].
Development flight tests of the Shaheen-II began in March 2004 when a 26-ton missile was launched from Pakistan’s Somiani Flight Test Range on the Arabian Sea.[33] According to the Chairman of Pakistan’s National Engineering and Scientific Commission (NESCOM) Dr. Samar Mubarakmand, the missile covered a distance of 1,800km during the test. [34]. The missile was tested in March 2005, April 2006, and February 2007.[55] Subsequently, reports in summer 2007 stated that Pakistan had begun the process of deployment of the Shaheen-II.[53]
The missile’s basic airframe is made from steel, although some sections may be crafted out of aluminum. The propulsion system is a liquid rocket engine that uses a storable combination of inhibited red fuming nitric acid and kerosene. During the boost phase, four jet vanes are used for thrust vector control. It is also believed that the missile uses three body-mounted gyros for attitude and lateral acceleration control. In addition, “a pendulum integration gyro assembly serves for speed control.” The Nodong’s range and throw weight has been variously estimated between 800-1,500km and 700-1,300kg, respectively.
Much to the chagrin of its enemies, Pakistan has expedited its nuclear program. The ISIS makes it look its breaking news. It is now reporting that Pakistan has a Plutonium program. The ISIS analysts may have been living in a cave, because Islamabad has always had a Plutonium program. Obviously the program is ongoing and and will surely add to the number of bombs that it possesses. The New York Times revealed the following
- The subtext of the argument is growing concern about the speed with which Pakistan is developing new generations of both conventional and nuclear weapons. “There’s a concerted effort to get these guys to slow down,”
- At issue is the detection by American intelligence agencies of a suspicious missile test on April 23 — a test never announced by the Pakistanis — that appeared to give the country a new offensive weapon.
Pakistan’s multifaceted missile program has various components
Pakistan’s atomic weapons stockpile has jumped to an estimated 70-90 warheads from a previous figure of 60 and it is also developing two new types of nuclear-capable cruise missiles, according to a top American scientist.
Writing for the Federation of American Scientists (FAS), Hans M Kristensen cited the latest Nuclear Notebook published in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists to highlight Pakistan’s expansion of its nuclear warheads.
The estimate of 70-90 nuclear warheads in Pakistan’s atomic weapons stockpile is an increase compared with the previous estimate of approximately 60 warheads due to Islamabad’s pending introduction of a new ballistic missile and cruise missiles, he said.
Mr Kristensen wrote that Pakistan’s nuclear-capable Shaheen-II medium-range ballistic missile also appears to be approaching operational deployment after long preparation.
The Army test-launched two missiles within three days in April 2008, and the US Air Force National Air and Space Intelligence Centre (NASIC) reported in June 2009 that the weapon “probably will soon be deployed,” he noted.
Two types of nuclear-capable cruise missiles are also under development —— the ground-launched Babur and the air-aunched Ra—ad, Mr Kristensen said.
Two new plutonium production reactors and a second chemical separation facility are also under construction by Pakistan.
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Mr Kristensen said that the development of cruise missiles with nuclear capability is interesting because it suggests that Pakistan’s nuclear weapons designers have been successful in building smaller and lighter plutonium warheads.
He also noted that a recent article in the CTC Sentinel news letter of the Combating Terrorism Centre at the US Military Academy at West Point had said that “most” of Pakistan’s nuclear sites might be close to or even within terrorist dominated areas.
Senior US officials were quoted as saying that the weapons were mostly located south of Islamabad, Mr Kristensen said.
According to the latest Bulletin of Atomic Scientists, it is exceedingly difficult to estimate precisely how many nuclear weapons Pakistan has produced, how many are deployed and of what types. However, Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal may not have reached 100 warheads as of yet.
Pakistan is thought to have produced approximately 2,000 kg of highly enriched uranium and 90 kg of separated military plutonium by early 2008, it said.
Pakistan is also expanding its capabilities to reprocess plutonium. Satellite images show that Pakistan is constructing a second separation facility adjacent to the Pakistan Institute of Nuclear Science and Technology in Rawalpindi, that could handle the plutonium produced in the two new Khushab reactors, it said. Pak’s n-arsenal contains up to 90 warheads: US scientisthttp://beta.thehindu.com/news/article13329.ece?homepage=true
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Kristensen is co-author of the Nuclear Notebook column in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists and the World Nuclear Forces overview in the SIPRI Yearbook. The Nuclear Notebook is, according to the publisher, “widely regarded as the most accurate source of information on nuclear weapons and weapons facilities available to the public.” His publications are available at http://www.nukestrat.com/pubs.htm
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Between 2002 and 2005, Kristensen was a consultant to the nuclear program at the Natural Resources Defense Council in Washington, D.C, where he researched nuclear weapons issues and wrote the report “U.S. Nuclear Weapons In Europe” (February 2005) and co-authored numerous articles including “What’s Behind Bush’s Nuclear Cuts” (Arms Control Today, October 2004) and “The Protection Paradox” (Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, March/April 2004). Between 1998 and 2002, Kristensen directed the Nuclear Strategy Project at the Nautilus Institute in Berkeley, CA, and he was a Special Advisor to the Danish Ministry of Defense in 1997-1998 as a member of the Danish Defense Commission. He was a Senior Researcher with the Nuclear Information Unit of Greenpeace International in Washington D.C from 1991 to 1996, prior to which he coordinated the Greenpeace Nuclear Free Seas Campaign in Denmark, Norway, Finland and Sweden.
Kristensen’s work on U.S. nuclear policy in 2005 led to the disclosure that preemptive nuclear strikes were being incorporated into U.S. post-Cold War joint nuclear doctrine for the first time. The disclosure triggered political reactions from Russia, Germany, and North Korea. In the United States the disclosure caused the Senate Armed Services Committee to request briefings from the Pentagon and 16 Senators to write President Bush asking him to intervene.
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As usual, right before the passage of an aid bill to Pakistan, a plethora of lobbies begin their disinformation campaigns. This latest one is pretty absurd. According to the Pakistanphobes that want to derail the aid package to Pakistan Islamabad has supposedly modified vintage Anti-ship US Harpoon missiles. This silly argument is as stupid as it sounds. Pakistan has a very advanced missile program and has tested short range, medium range and long range missiles. Pakistan has been testing the missiles for over three decades.
Much to the chagrin of its enemies, Pakistan has expedited its nuclear program. The ISIS makes it look its breaking news. It is now reporting that Pakistan has a Plutonium program. The ISIS analysts may have been living in a cave, because Islamabad has always had a Plutonium program. Obviously the program is ongoing and and will surely add to the number of bombs that it possesses.
Pakistan’s multifaceted missile program has various components
The recent US charge about reverse engineering ancient US kits doesn’t make any sense at all. The dispute highlights the level of mistrust that remains between the United States and a Pakistani military. So what are the reasons for the inane accusation. The New York Times sheds some light on the reasons:
- ..the subtext of the argument is growing concern about the speed with which Pakistan is developing new generations of both conventional and nuclear weapons. “There’s a concerted effort to get these guys to slow down,”
- At issue is the detection by American intelligence agencies of a suspicious missile test on April 23 — a test never announced by the Pakistanis — that appeared to give the country a new offensive weapon.
The Pakistan missile program is one of the most advanced in the world. Most international experts are very skeptical of the American claims.
- … the Harpoon missile did not have the necessary range for a land-attack missile, which would lend credibility to Pakistani claims that they are developing their own new missile. Moreover, he said, Pakistan already has more modern land-attack missiles that it developed itself or acquired from China. Robert Hewson, editor of Jane’s Air-Launched Weapons, a yearbook and Web-based data service
- “They’re beyond the need to reverse-engineer old U.S. kit,” …“They’re more sophisticated than that.” …the ship-to-shore missile that Pakistan was testing was part of a concerted effort to develop an array of conventional missiles that could be fired from the air, land or sea to address India’s much more formidable conventional missile arsenal.Robert Hewson, editor of Jane’s Air-Launched Weapons, a yearbook and Web-based data service
The Pakistani missile program is a program of survival, self-preservation, dreams, defense and direct competition with India. In many ways, the program is ahead of its much larger neighbor’s program. Its deterrent value was proven, even in its early stages of development when it kept more than 250,000 soldiers on the Pakistani borders at bay in 2002. It also prevented Bharat from attacking Pakistan in the 90s when Zia Ul Haq was president. The US claim is all the more ridiculous because Bharat has admitted that Pakistan has a very robust missile program.
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The range of Pakistan's India-centric missiles. The Pakistani missile program is helping it develop a space program
WASHINGTON — The United States has accused Pakistan of illegally modifying American-made missiles to expand its capability to strike land targets, a potential threat to India, according to senior administration and Congressional officials.
The charge, which set off a new outbreak of tensions between the United States and Pakistan, was made in an unpublicized diplomatic protest in late June to Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani and other top Pakistani officials.
The accusation comes at a particularly delicate time, when the administration is asking Congress to approve $7.5 billion in aid to Pakistan over the next five years, and when Washington is pressing a reluctant Pakistani military to focus its attentions on fighting the Taliban, rather than expanding its nuclear and conventional forces aimed at India.
While American officials say that the weapon in the latest dispute is a conventional one — based on the Harpoon antiship missiles that were sold to Pakistan by the Reagan administration as a defensive weapon in the cold war — the subtext of the argument is growing concern about the speed with which Pakistan is developing new generations of both conventional and nuclear weapons.
“There’s a concerted effort to get these guys to slow down,” one senior administration official said. “Their energies are misdirected.”
At issue is the detection by American intelligence agencies of a suspicious missile test on April 23 — a test never announced by the Pakistanis — that appeared to give the country a new offensive weapon.
American military and intelligence officials say they suspect that Pakistan has modified the Harpoon antiship missiles that the United States sold the country in the 1980s, a move that would be a violation of the Arms Control Export Act. Pakistan has denied the charge, saying it developed the missile itself. The United States has also accused Pakistan of modifying American-made P-3C aircraft for land-attack missions, another violation of United States law that the Obama administration has protested.NY Times. By ERIC SCHMITT and DAVID E. SANGER. Published: August 29, 2009 U.S. Accuses Pakistan of Altering Missiles.
Pakistani missiles: Hataf, Ghauri, Babar, Abdali missiles
Pakistan has first strike capability covering the entire South Asian Subcontinent . It also has 2nd strike capability with missiles that can reach deep into Indian territory. The 250 Nuclear and Hydrogen bombs keep the enemies at bay.
Pakistan has reportedly addressed issues of survivability through second strike capability, possible hard and deeply buried storage andlaunch facilities, road-mobile missiles, air defenses around strategic sites and concealment measures,” the Congressional Research Service (CRS) said in its report on Pak nuclear weapons dating May 15.CRS is the research wing of US Congress, which prepares reports on issues of interest of the US lawmakers.
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Pakistan began banking on missiles because of the US embargo on planes. “till the fleet of 500 JF-Thunder aircraft are ready, Pakistan’s nuclear deterrent will be the missile nuclear defense. Pakistan formally kicked off its medium-range missile programme in April 1998, with the first successful test flight of GhauriI missile followed by similar tests the next years involving the nuclear capable Ghauri, Shaheen, Ghaznavi and Abdali missile systems.
Whatever their origin, the missiles would be a significant new entry into Pakistan’s arsenal against India. They would enable Pakistan’s small navy to strike targets on land, complementing the sizable land-based missile arsenal that Pakistan has developed. That, in turn, would be likely to spur another round of an arms race with India that the United States has been trying, unsuccessfully, to halt. “The focus of our concern is that this is a potential unauthorized modification of a maritime antiship defensive capability to an offensive land-attack missile,” said another senior administration official, who also spoke on the condition of anonymity because the matter involves classified information.
“The potential for proliferation and end-use violations are things we watch very closely,” the official added. “When we have concerns, we act aggressively.”
A senior Pakistani official, also speaking on the condition of anonymity because the interchanges with Washington have been both delicate and highly classified, said the American accusation was “incorrect.” The official said that the missile tested was developed by Pakistan, just as it had modified North Korean designs to build a range of land-based missiles that could strike India. He said that Pakistan had taken the unusual step of agreeing to allow American officials to inspect the country’s Harpoon inventory to prove that it had not violated the law, a step that administration officials praised.
Some experts are also skeptical of the American claims. Robert Hewson, editor of Jane’s Air-Launched Weapons, a yearbook and Web-based data service, said the Harpoon missile did not have the necessary range for a land-attack missile, which would lend credibility to Pakistani claims that they are developing their own new missile. Moreover, he said, Pakistan already has more modern land-attack missiles that it developed itself or acquired from China.
“They’re beyond the need to reverse-engineer old U.S. kit,” Mr. Hewson said in a telephone interview. “They’re more sophisticated than that.” Mr. Hewson said the ship-to-shore missile that Pakistan was testing was part of a concerted effort to develop an array of conventional missiles that could be fired from the air, land or sea to address India’s much more formidable conventional missile arsenal.
The dispute highlights the level of mistrust that remains between the United States and a Pakistani military that American officials like to portray as an increasingly reliable partner in the effort to root out the forces of the Taliban and Al Qaeda on Pakistani territory. A central element of the American effort has been to get the military refocused on the internal threat facing the country, rather than on threat the country believes it still faces from India.
Pakistani officials have insisted that they are making that shift. But the evidence continues to point to heavy investments in both nuclear and conventional weapons that experts say have no utility in the battle against insurgents.
Over the years, the United States has provided a total of 165 Harpoon missiles to Pakistan, including 37 of the older-model weapons that were delivered from 1985 to 1988, said Charles Taylor, a spokesman for the Defense Security Cooperation Agency.
The country’s nuclear arsenal is expanding faster than any other nation’s. In May, Pakistan conducted a test firing of its Babur medium-range cruise missile, a weapon that military experts say could potentially be tipped with a nuclear warhead. The test was conducted on May 6, during a visit to Washington by President Asif Ali Zardari, but was not made public by Pakistani officials until three days after the meetings had ended to avoid upsetting the talks. While it may be technically possible to arm the Harpoons with small nuclear weapons, outside experts say it would probably not be necessary.
Before Congress departed for its summer recess, administration officials briefed crucial legislators on the protest to Pakistan. The dispute has the potential to delay or possibly even derail the legislation to provide Pakistan with $7.5 billion in civilian aid over five years; lawmakers are scheduled to vote on the aid package when they return from their recess next month.
The legislation is sponsored by Senators John Kerry of Massachusetts and Richard G. Lugar of Indiana, the top Democrat and Republican on the Foreign Relations Committee, as well as Representative Howard L. Berman, a California Democrat who leads the House Foreign Affairs Committee. Congressional aides are now reconciling House and Senate versions of the legislation.
Frederick Jones, a spokesman for Mr. Kerry, declined to comment on the details of the dispute citing its classified nature but suggested that the pending multifaceted aid bill would clear Congress “in a few weeks” and would help cooperation between the two countries.
“There have been irritants in the U.S.-Pakistan relationship in the past and there will be in the future,” Mr. Jones said in a statement, noting that the pending legislation would provide President Obama “with new tools to address troubling behavior.” NY Times. By ERIC SCHMITT and DAVID E. SANGER. Published: August 29, 2009 U.S. Accuses Pakistan of Altering Missiles.
Known and publicized Pakistan’s missile efforts consists of three components:
SHORT RANGE MISSILES:The short range Hatf-1 and Hatf-2, of Pakistani design and construction, were developed by the Space and Upper Atmosphere Research Commission (SUPARCO).M-11Since 1992, Pakistan has been constructing maintenance facilities, launchers and storage sheds for the missiles. The missile has a range of more than 300 km and a payload of 500 kg. It is a two-stage, solid-propelled missile capable of carrying nuclear warheads. The missile was reportedly test-fired in July 1997.
- Hatf-1, Est. Range: 80 km, Est. Payload: 500 kg, Est. Launch Weight: 1500 kg, Propulsion: Single-stage, Solid propellant, Comments: Mobile platform. Status: flight-tested.
- Even though the Hatf-1, -1A, and Hataf-2were declared operational in the early 1990s, and the Pakistan Army tested the Hatf-1A in February 2000. Western observers feel that both Hataf 1 and Hataf2 programs are likely to have been discontinued. Pakistani analysts find the Hataf 1 and 2 of a lot of value because of he proximity of any enemy movement. The older versions of the Hataf did not have a robust navigational system, but this functionality has been upgraded.
SHAHEEN MEDIUM RANGE:The Shaheen series of solid-propellant missiles were developed by the Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission (PAEC), which is also responsible for Pakistan’s plutonium bomb program. They have been compared to the Chinese M-11 missiles. The locally produced longer range Shaheen-I and Shaheen-II appear are comparable to the Chinese M-9 or DF-15 missiles.
Hatf-3, (Tarmuk) (Comparable to Chinese M-11)Est. Range: 300 km, Est. Payload: 500 kg, Est. Launch Weight: N/A
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Propulsion: Two-stage, Solid propellant
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Comments: Mobile platform. Status: flight-tested.
Hatf IV. The DF-15/M-9 (NATO designation CSS-6) is a single-stage, solid-propellant, road mobile, short-range ballistic missile. It can reportedly deliver a 500kg warhead over a range of 600km; other reports suggest that with a smaller warhead, the missile could have a range of 800km. Pakistani government statements suggest that the missiles in Pakistan’s possession have a maximum range of 700-800km. Like the M-11 missiles, control during boost phase is exercised through “exhaust vanes or small scale vernier motors.” The M-9 has a reported 300m circular error probability (CEP) and is believed to employ some form of terminal guidance. Analysts suggest that the missile has a “strapdown inertial guidance system with an onboard digital computer,”….which “enables rapid targeting andeliminates need for wind corrections prior to launch.” Unconfirmed reports suggest that the “separating warhead section has a miniature propulsion system to correct the attitude before re-entry, as well as adjusting the terminal trajectory.”Source NTI
Shaheen 1:The high-precision Shaheen-1 missile has a range of up to 700 kilometers (about 440 miles). It is a railroad platform-based mobile variant of the Pakistani Hatf-IV ballistic missile.
LONG RANGE GHAURI:The Kahuta Laboratories, which is also responsible for Pakistan’s uranium bomb program, has built the Gahuri missile which is also in production. It has been compared to North Korean Nodong and the longer range Taepodong missiles.The Ghauri (Hatf-V) missile was tested in April 1998. The Ghauri is liquid-fueled and is Pakistan’s imported version of the North Korean Nodong, itself a fancy Scud. Official Pakistani statements claim the missile has a maximum range of 1500 km carrying a 700 kg payload, but analysis by the U.S. Department of Defense of the Ghauri puts the range closer to 1000 km. According to Dr. A. Q. Khan, who is credited with being the father of Pakistan’s nuclear and ballistic missile programs, the Ghauri flew 1100 km in its flight-test in April, supporting the Pentagon’s analysis. Press reports put the tested range as being between 700 km and 1200 km.The Ghauri is reported to have a relatively large diameter – 1.25 m. Pakistan is capable of producing nuclear warheads approximately the size of a soccer ball and weighing 400 kg, a size which would easily fit on a 1.25 m missile. Dr. Khan claimed that Ghauri is now “fully operational.” And when asked if Pakistan is now capable of deploying nuclear weapons, he replied, “No doubt about it, one should not be under any illusions.” He said it could be done within “not months, not weeks, but within days.”
Hatf-5, (Ghauri 1).‘A Strategic Missile Group (SMG) of Pakistan Army’s Strategic Force Command (ASFC) conducted a successful training launch of Ghauri Missile (IRBM)” . Pakistan’s liquid-engine ballistic missile program is spearheaded by KRL. Comparable to Soviet R-17, and Korean Nodong.
- Est. Range: 1000 km, Est. Payload: 700 kg,
- Est. Launch Weight: 16,000 kg.
- Propulsion: Single-stage, liquid propellant.
- Comments: Mobile platform. Status: flight-tested.
“KRL has also disclosed plans for longer-range versions of the Ghauri: the Ghauri-II and possibly Ghauri-III. A more powerful engine for longer-range versions of the Ghauri is under development.[37] Some statements attributed to Pakistani nuclear scientists and government leaders suggest that the Ghauri-II will have a range of 1,700km; other statements suggest that the Ghauri-III will have a strike-range of 2,000-3,500km” Comparable DPRK Taopodong
Hatf-VI (IRBM) Shaheen II is Pakistan’s longest-range ballistic missile system with a range of 2000 kilometers and has the potential to achieve 2500 kilometers in an advanced version. It is a two-stage solid fuel missile which can carry nuclear and conventional warheads with high accuracy.
April 26, 2008: Pakistan announced that, after nearly a decade of development, its Hatf VI IRBM (Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile) is ready for service. The system, also called Shaheen II, has a range of 2,000 kilometers, can carry a nuclear warhead, and hit any part of India. At least a dozen of these missiles are being built, andmoved around on mobile transporter/launchers. The Hatf VI will be a major part of Pakistan’s nuclear deterrent against Indian invasion
… a 700-2,500km-range missile dubbed as the Shaheen-II, about which little is known.[30] Mock-ups of the missile displayed during the National Day celebrations in March 2003 suggest that it is a two-stage, solid-motor, road mobile system, transported on a 12-wheel TEL vehicle. Analysts speculate that the Shaheen-II is possibly a two-stage version of the M-9, or more likely a copy of the M-18, which was publicly displayed at an exhibition in Beijing in either 1987 or 1988. The M-18 was originally advertised as a two-stage system with a payload capacity of 400-500kg over a range of 1,000km.[31] U.S. intelligence sources suggest that Pakistan remains heavily reliant on external assistance for the Shaheen-II program and that China is actively assisting Pakistan through the supply of missile components, specialty materials, dual-use items, and other miscellaneous forms of technical assistance.[32].
Development flight tests of the Shaheen-II began in March 2004 when a 26-ton missile was launched from Pakistan’s Somiani Flight Test Range on the Arabian Sea.[33] According to the Chairman of Pakistan’s National Engineering and Scientific Commission (NESCOM) Dr. Samar Mubarakmand, the missile covered a distance of 1,800km during the test. [34]. The missile was tested in March 2005, April 2006, and February 2007.[55] Subsequently, reports in summer 2007 stated that Pakistan had begun the process of deployment of the Shaheen-II.[53]
The missile’s basic airframe is made from steel, although some sections may be crafted out of aluminum. The propulsion system is a liquid rocket engine that uses a storable combination of inhibited red fuming nitric acid and kerosene. During the boost phase, four jet vanes are used for thrust vector control. It is also believed that the missile uses three body-mounted gyros for attitude and lateral acceleration control. In addition, “a pendulum integration gyro assembly serves for speed control.” The Nodong’s range and throw weight has been variously estimated between 800-1,500km and 700-1,300kg, respectively.
BABAR HATF-7, Ra’ad (Hatf VII).CRUISE MISSILES: Pakistan schocked India and the world when it tested a stealth cruise missile in 2005. Babar Hatf-7. The Babar cruise missile can carry nuclear or conventional warheads. The 1.5-tonne, 22-foot long missile is capable of carrying a 250-kg warhead. It is believed Pakistan is working on developing a nuclear warhead that would fit into it. Since 2005, Islamabad has also carried out several tests of its Babur (Hatf VII) cruise missile, two such tests coming in March and June 2007.
The Hatf-VIII Ra’ad Cruise missile: Pakistan successfully tested a nuclear-capable, air-launched cruise missile with a range of 350 km on Thursday. This cruise missile has been developed exclusively for launch from aircraft. The indigenously developed missile also had special stealth capabilities and could deliver all types of warheads with great accuracy. This cruise missile was tested on May 8, 2008This subsonic nuclear capable missile, has a range of 700 km.[48] In addition, in August 2007, Pakistan tested a new cruise missile, the Ra’ad (Arabic for “Thunder”). This missile, which is air-launched, has a range of 350 kilometers.[1] Thus, along with ballistic missiles, cruise missiles are increasingly part of Pakistan’s nuclear calculus. [2] Source: [49] “Pakistan Military Test-Fires Nuclear Capable Cruise Missile,” International Herald Tribune, August 25, 2007, http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/08/25/asia/AS-GEN-Pakistan-Missile-Test.php.[50] See “Nuclear Cruise Missiles,” Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, November/December 2007, pp. 62-63,
IN DEVELOPMENT/PRODUCTION:ICBMS AND SLV Taimur:In the future, an even longer-ranged missile is likely, according to the Rumsfeld Commission. Analysts have estimated that Pakistani misisletechnology has grown beyond the basic stages and is capable of Intercontinental reach. Pakistan is working on the Taimur Sat. Luanch vehicle which has been kept under close wraps. The space and the ICBM program is closely linked.
Defense
Crescent daggers
India envious of Pakistan nukes–jittery about Pakistan Plutonium capability
Pakistan's as Nuclear power: 350 bombs
Pakistan’s Plutonium based Tritium H-Bombs deter Indian agression
Nukes: Don’t mess with us–Islamabad’s defiant rebuke to threats
Why the US can never attack North Korea: Peek into Pakistan's Nuclear planning
Pakistan’s robust Nuclear & Missile prowess growing fast–US scientists
Nuclear deterrence & Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD) blunts Bharat’s Cold Start Strategy
Military Strategy
PakSat II, PakSat III PakSat IV using Chinese and Turkish technology
Pakistan Space Agency (SUPARCO) to launch 3 satellites in 3 years
Pakistan indigenous Satellite launch Vehicle & PakSat launch in 2011
Pakistan’s Augusta Subs, Orion P3Cs, Mirage fighters, & now Tiger choppers
Pakistani defense based on missile nuclear deterrent. Hatf, Shaheen, Ghauri, Babar and Abdali are far more advanced then previously thought
Pakistan's "214 Subs" made in Karachi
5th Generation Su-35 spinoffs made in China as J-11s
Pakistan rapidly moving beyond basic JF-17 Thunders. The J-10s J-11s and newer versions of JF-17
Jointly Redesigned and upgraded Chinese J-10Bs built in Pakistan as FC-20s to be operationalized before 2015
The Pakistani hawks in the sky: Y-89 AWACS
Nothing succeeds like success: Hataf, Ghauri, Babar, Abdali missiles
JF-17 Thunders: Designed, built and operationalized in a record time of 4 years. Custom built for Pakistani needs
The impact of Pakistan’s first indigenous JF-17 Thunder Squadron deployment
Serial production of JF-17 Thunder expedited:30-50 per year to 100 per annum
Beyond the Pakistani made JF-17 Thunder Fighter Plane, Chinese made J-10s.PAF next acquisition the J-11s?
Hamza: Pakistan's Augusta class Subs made in Karachi
Pakistan’s 500 Al-Khalid tanks have been in production since 2001. Next generation tanks exported via IDEAS
Pakistani made UAVs: Uqaab & Jasoos
3 New shipyards support Pakistani ship building & Frigates
Pakistan's F-22 Frigates made in Karachi
Chinese SAMs S-300s for Pakistan
Strategic Assett: Pakistan Steel Mill to triple itself
Pakistani ASBMs: Vikram killer weapons
Why did Pakistan buy fewer F-16s?
PAF: Nuclear armed deterrent to hegemony
Pakistan already has a Nuclear Deal with China! India tried to raise expectations to portend failure!
IAF vs PAF: Defined by IAF
Tanks: Bharati Arjun vs. Pakistani Al Khalid
Pakistan’s 250 JF-17s, 50 F-16: Indias panicky “concern”
When with Iranian S-300s be operational?
Russian 5th generation Su 35s spinoff of Su 27 Made in China as J-11
China achieves techonological independence in arms production
Russian Arms--Made in China
With $30 Billion China building Jxx 5th Generation Fighter
Indian missile failures
Why doesn't Russia transfer plane technology to India?
When will Delhi ground the New Flying Coffins?
Indo Russian bickering disputes delay FGFA to stretch target in 2017
How Abdul Kalam stole US NASA secrets for India
Indian Airforce crying wolf? or facing shortage of jets?
Indian Airforce crying wolf? or facing shortage of jets?
South Asia Air Forces: PAF counters IAF strategy
The declining Indo-Russian relationship leaves Delhi scrambling for new arms sources—but they come with strings
Are Are the F-35s totoal failures like the scrapped F-111s? The Australians think soAsian Oceans–Chinese Lakes
Indian Defense Reports
Indian Strategic plans about Pakistan
Secretary of State Clinton during the campaign called Pakistanis paranoid about Indian intentions. Ms. Clinton please explain this article (not the only one) published in India's most presitgious Defense journal.
India's real intentions about Pakistan. See Indian Defense Review article
The India Doctrine by Munshi
Indian intelligence: “‘the aim of RAW is to keep internal disturbances flaring up and the ISI preoccupied so that Pakistan can lend no worthwhile resistance to Indian designs in the region.”
Listing of Indian RAWs bomb blasts in PakistanSri Lanka
THE LAST REFUGE OF BUDDHISTS IN SOUTH ASIA
Sri Lanka Page
Pakistan China celebrate LTTE annhilation
LTTE was created by IndiaIndian Military Prowess
Helicopters for India?
How Abdul Kalam Stole US secrets for Delhi's rockets Delhi's Tejas
World Record: 500th Flying coffin crashes
Russian FGFA: Tricolor paint
Junk jets for Japan
More Flying coffins?
$10 billion for which plane?
F-16s or F-35s
Lockheed's bait and switch
Moscow sale to Delhi: Russian Mig 35s are simply Mig 29s with new decals
Delhi's missiles
Brahmos: Faster than the speeding bullet
Abject failure in indigenous arms production forced Delhi to buy weapons without Transfer of Technology
After Moscow's grounding, when will Delhi ground the New Flying Coffins?
Delhi’s deeply frozen Israeli Missiles: Windfall profits for Delhi politicians but no Baraks
India’s ‘98 Nuclear duds complicate 123 deal with USA and CTBT signing
The Delhi Dud Report video
Indian duds in Pokhran: Dr. Santhanam exposes nuclear fizzle
How Abdul Kalam stole US secrets for Delhi’s rockets
Rust bucket Arihant: Delhi’s clunky, noisy Soviet era Charlie class tub assembled from Russian submarine kit
India’s Bullock Cart Space program Made in USA & Russia
More Duds: The fiasco of the IAFs Mig 29s
The Delhi Dud Report on Indian Defense: Arms that don’t work
Rust bucket Arihant: Delhi’s clunky, noisy Soviet era Charlie class tub assembled from Russian submarine kit
Delhi Duds: The fiasco of the IAFs Mig 29s
The Delhi Dud Report on Indian Defense: Arms that don’t work
Indian Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA), continues to falter even after 25 years
Tejas 1983: A dismal failure which became obsolete in the design phase
Helicopters for India?
The Admiral Gorshkov ripoff
How Abdul Kalam Stole US secrets for Delhi's rockets Delhi's Tejas
World Record: 500th Flying coffin crashes
Russian FGFA: Tricolor paint
Junk jets for Japan
More Flying coffins?
$10 billion for which plane?
F-16s or F-35s
Lockheed's bait and switch
Moscow sale to Delhi: Russian Mig 35s are simply Mig 29s with new decals
Delhi's missiles
Brahmos: Faster than the speeding bullet
Abject failure in indigenous arms production forced Delhi to buy weapons without Transfer of Technology
After Moscow's grounding, when will Delhi ground the New Flying Coffins?
Delhi’s deeply frozen Israeli Missiles: Windfall profits for Delhi politicians but no Baraks
Unmitigated failure: Indian Tejas scrapped. New Snecma plane?
Aircraft Carrier “Admiral Gorshkov”: Delhi wanted a Lada, & now demands a Mercedes
Junk jets for Japan
More Flying coffins?
$10 billion for which plane?
F-16s or F-35s
Lockheed’s bait and switch
Moscow sale to Delhi: Russian Mig 35s are simply Mig 29s with new decals
Delhi’s missiles
Brahmos: Faster than the speeding bullet
Abject failure in indigenous arms production forced Delhi to buy weapons without Transfer of Technology
After Moscow’s grounding, when will Delhi ground the New Flying Coffins?
The CAG Report on Indian duds video
Who is responsible for the duds in the Bharati Defense establishment. VIDEO
Duds in the Bharati Defense establishment. Part II VIDEO
Rupee News- Saad Khan, 5th column sellout is voice of “Ingrate Inc” on Neo-Liberal Pakistanphobe blog
- Why Zardari wants to buy more Augustas from Sarkozi
- Bangladeshi book proposes S.Asian federation againt India
- Indian Maoists’ foreign friends-China, Lanka, Bangladesh & Nepal
- Muslim Maldives struggles against Indian take over
- Maoists rebel leader Kishanji not to ‘abjure’ violence against India
- Turkish Mard-e-Momin Erdogan defies Europe
- Beijing incensed at Dalai Lama provacation in South Tibet (renamed Arunchal Pradesh)
- Reviewing India-Myanmar Relations
- Clay Cup story: In 70% of India’s villages, non-Dalits will not eat with Dalits
Middle East
Kargil Truth
KARGIL, SIACHIN & SIR CREEK DISPUTES Kargil declassified
Secret Kargil tapes
Border disputes: Sir Creek
Sir Creek: The other "Kashmir" dispute
Siachin Truth Paper
Palestine
Palestinians are ready to accept 22% of their original homeland with Pre-67 Israeli borders and Arab part of Jerusalem. "Taba" post Oslo.
Even after 60 years many dream of Nile to the Euphrates-"Ertz Israel"
This is why they hate usSole Superpower
Asian War Games
Delhi's Cold Start Strategy frozen DOA (Dead on Arrival)
Pakistani response to India's Cold Start Strategy
Neutralizing Delhi's Surgical strikes
Hot War: A response to Cold Start
Pakistan is not Hizullah and Bharat is not Israel
India's Cold War Strategy and the Pakistani Nuclear Response
Pakistani defense based upon Missle Nuclear deterrent Shaheed, Ghauri, Babar, & Abdali
Nuclear Armeggedon in South Asia: Analysis
Between the Devil & the Deep Sea–India’s vulnerability in the Malacca Straits & the Ariabian SeaGlobal War on Terror
Analysis: Indian terrorists attack Pakistani School a few miles from the Wagah border
LTTE Lanka Lahore: Terror trail leads to Delhi
Lankan Foreign Minister blames LTTE and Indian RAW for Lahore attack on cricketers
RAWs trail of terror: Indian bomb blasts in Pakistan
Indian intelligence's (RAW) covert war on on Pakistan
Partial list of RAW bombings of civilians in Pakistan
BLA is a threat to International Peace. The BLA a creation of Indian Intelligence agency RAW trying to destabilize Pakistan & Iran
Smoking Gun: India provided Rs 650 for terrorism in Swat
RAW: India intelligence: “the aim of RAW is to keep internal disturbances flaring up and the ISI preoccupied so that Pakistan can lend no worthwhile resistance to Indian designs in the region.”Khyber Pass landmines
Why are Pakistani peace deals in Swat considered capitulation and US peace deals in Faluja & Kabul considered diplomacy?
Afghanistan defeat: British Failures of “the White Man’s burden”
Concerted Police Action, without a failed war, can solve Afghan terror
US AfPak policy review results mimic Chinese demads given to Hillary
Force is all-conquering, but its victories are short-lived. ~Abraham Lincoln In 1821
The Taliban was a construct of the CIA and was armed by the CIA:--Congressman Dana Rohrabacher
Obama's Vietnam & Cambodiazation of the Afghan war
Solutions to "Obama's Vietnam"
Kabul: The Final Spring Offensive? End of NATO?
Afghanistan: The writing is on the wall. Can Obama read it?
UK Brig. Smith: “We’re not going to win this [Afghan] war”
Failure and Defeat in Afghanistan: Inevitable Frustration & misdirected Payback for ally Pakistan
US Charge of the Light Brigade into Pakistan is a US failure and has to stop
Pakistan's do more list for the USA
Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan & Swat run by Taliban Huge Migraine for India
Facing the Khyber poltergeist & Ganges hobgoblin
NATO war: UK 1880 defeats in Afghanistan
The folly of the UKs “Charge of the Light Brigade” in Afghanistan AGAIN reminds us of Britian's previous defeat in Afghainstan. Unfortunately the lessons of the unmitigated disaster of “Auckland’s Folly”, (First Anglo-Afghan War 1838–42) have not been taught to the Oxbridge students.
Bin Laden used Reagan’s USSR strategy to Destroy US Capitalism?
Cambodiazation of the Afghan war
Rescueing the Pashtuns of Afghania from Afghanistan
Unite! Erase the Durand Line
Solution: Fixing "AfPak" expedites the inevitable union between Pakistan & Afghanistan
The emerging "Leave Pakistan to Afghanistan" strategy goes mainstream--Extricating the US from the Lost in the Khyber
Chinese Century
The end of an era: The shrinking superpower-The emerging quad led by China
“Waving Goodbye to Hegemony” By Parag Khanna: Dawn of a multipolar world with China and Europe and maybe Russia
China reads the riot act. Strict conditions for Bailing US out and buying US T-Bills
Between the Devil & the Deep Sea–India’s vulnerability in the Malacca Straits & the Ariabian Sea
The coming war between India and China
String of Pearls strategy makes it an " 'Asian' Ocean"--a Chinese Lake
India vs. China: Who is winning?
"China's Gibralter"-Gwader: "Beijings's Guantanimo"- Hambantoa defies India in the oceans
"China's Israel"=Pakistan
The Impact of Chinese Commercial Jumbo Jets for the world
With $30 Billion China building Jxx 5th Generation Fighter
Beyond Pakistani made JF-17 Thunders & Chinese made J-10s: When will the PAF acquire and manufacture the J-11s (as the JF-18)?
China allows a peek into its secret Naval base: Not so subtle warning to India?
China's underground Hainan Submarine base-a threat to Delhi hegemony designs
Revising finance 101 for the Chinese Century: Political impact of Center of Gravity shift from New York to Beijing
C919: Impact of Chinese Commerical Jumbo jets for the world
Hainan Naval incident: Beijing to USA: Can’t you read the sign? "Sea of China" is Chinese territory
Between the Devil & the Deep Sea–India’s vulnerability in the Malacca Straits & the Arabian SeaResurgent Russia
Indian power
Indian duds in Pokhran: Dr. Santhanam exposes nuclear fizzle
‘Naked’ India needs Nuclear tests to deal with China: Santhanam
Indian Army chief Malik unsure about Nukes doubts Kalam
The entire Indian establishment has been lying about the Pokhran duds for a decade
India’s Pokhran duds blow up 11 years later: Huge political fallout
India’s ‘98 Nuclear duds complicate 123 deal with USA and CTBT signing
The Delhi Dud Report video
How Abdul Kalam stole US secrets for Delhi’s rockets
Indian “Nuclear Sub” not “Nuclear”: Sailing empty hull without reactor
Rust bucket Arihant: Delhi’s clunky, noisy Soviet era Charlie class tub assembled from Russian submarine kit
India’s Bullock Cart Space program Made in USA & Russia
More Duds: The fiasco of the IAFs Mig 29s
The Delhi Dud Report on Indian Defense: Arms that don’t work
Rust bucket Arihant: Delhi’s clunky, noisy Soviet era Charlie class tub assembled from Russian submarine kit
Delhi Duds: The fiasco of the IAFs Mig 29s
The Delhi Dud Report on Indian Defense: Arms that don’t work
Indian Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA), continues to falter even after 25 years
Tejas 1983: A dismal failure which became obsolete in the design phase
Helicopters for India?
The Admiral Gorshkov ripoff
How Abdul Kalam Stole US secrets for Delhi's rockets Delhi's Tejas
World Record: 500th Flying coffin crashes
Russian FGFA: Tricolor paint
More Flying coffins?
$10 billion for which plane?
F-16s or F-35s
Lockheed's bait and switch
Moscow sale to Delhi: Russian Mig 35s are simply Mig 29s with new decals
Delhi's missiles
Brahmos: Faster than the speeding bullet
Abject failure in indigenous arms production forced Delhi to buy weapons without Transfer of Technology
After Moscow's grounding, when will Delhi ground the New Flying Coffins?
Delhi’s deeply frozen Israeli Missiles: Windfall profits for Delhi politicians but no Baraks
Unmitigated failure: Indian Tejas scrapped. New Snecma plane?
Aircraft Carrier “Admiral Gorshkov”: Delhi wanted a Lada, & now demands a Mercedes
More Flying coffins?
$10 billion for which plane?
F-16s or F-35s
Lockheed’s bait and switch
Moscow sale to Delhi: Russian Mig 35s are simply Mig 29s with new decals
Delhi’s missiles
Brahmos: Faster than the speeding bullet
Abject failure in indigenous arms production forced Delhi to buy weapons without Transfer of Technology
After Moscow’s grounding, when will Delhi ground the New Flying Coffins?
The CAG Report on Indian duds video
Who is responsible for the duds in the Bharati Defense establishment. VIDEO
Duds in the Bharati Defense establishment. Part II VIDEO
Comedy of errors: IAF bombs Gandhi canal in Jaisalmir-India
If the US can sell Junk jets to Japan why not Bharat?
India’s Nuclear proliferation
India’s inadequate aircraft strength: it is not enough: IAF Chief P V NaikReal News
Central Asia
Stopping the Indian mercenaries
Halting the suicide bombers needs a holistic strategy and an immediate stopping of drones
Has Indian been thrown out of Tajikistan? Why was Russia angry at India?
Dumping the IMF, stopping the US drones, and halting the Indian & Afghan mercenaries coming from across the border
Planes
Indian Military Strategy
RAW Page: Indian Intelligence machinations
RAWs trail of terror: Indian bomb blasts in Pakistan
Indian imperialism: Using RAW to destabilize all neighbors
BLA is a threat to International Peace. The BLA a creation of Indian Intelligence agency RAW trying to destabilize Pakistan & Iran
Indian RAW & Afghan NSD proxy behind FATA Baluch unrest
India a major player in Afghanistan: Bases-Lashkargarh, Qushila Jadid,Khahak,Hassan Killies
India intelligence: “‘the aim of RAW is to keep internal disturbances flaring up and the ISI preoccupied so that Pakistan can lend no worthwhile resistance to Indian designs in the region.”
Pakistan’s National Crisis Management Cell (NCMC) submits proof of Indian RAW involvement in terror bombing in Pakistan. Blunt message to New Delhi to stop!
‘RAW training 600 terrorists In Afghanistan’ Senator Mushahid
Analysis: Indian terrorists attack Pakistani School a few miles from the Wagah border
107 Indian “Consulates” & RAW Intel Units in Afghanistan spreading terror to PakistanWater Wars
INDIA'S AQUA BOMBS: Draught & floods imposed on Pakistan: Indus Water Treaty violations- state terror
Indian Aqua bomb: The coming water wars in Kashmir
The Aqua Wars
Water Wars: The impact of India stopping Pakistani waterAfghan Great Game
Beyond US withdrawal from Afghanistan
Afghanistan defeat: British Failures of “the White Man’s burden”
Imperial blindness: Another Empire stuck in Af-Pak quagmire unable to extricate itself out of Kipling’s hell
The Grand Bargains for Kabul
Russia asserts itself in Central Asia
Moscow's pound of flesh for base & supplies to Kabul
Gwadar to China:- Trade lessons from the 5000 yr old Pakistani Indus Valley Civilization: The Harrappan Trade Corridor within the IVC (Dilmin, Mekan) and beyond is now being resurrected again
Obama's advisor predicts focus on talks and reconciliation
Why was India attacked in Kabul?
India a secret player in Afghanistan: Bases—Lashkargarh, Qushila Jadid,Khahak,Hassan Killies
Peace: Top 10 reasons for ending the war in Afghanistan & recommendations
Proxy war in Afghanistan: Strategic depth vs Strategic cloutBeyond the Oxus
US bluff: Other arduous US Supply Chain routes to Afghanistan not feasible
Pakistan to US: No pay-No play: Tough lessons in geography!
After controlling most of Afghanistan, the insurgents target supplies from Uzbekistan and the Central Asia Republics
Uzbekistan pressured the IMU is scared of Taliban reprisals on supplies to Kabul
Anti-Occupation forces choke US Afghan war
Reality check on War in Afghanistan
The implications of the IMU activity in Pakistan
The Grand Bargain? Pakistan key to Afghan Great Game
Tough lessons in geographyIndia as World Power
Women in Bharat
India as world power! Part 1
World power India: Part 2
Super Power- Part 3
India as space power
A space program "Made in USA" and "Made in Russia"
A gift from the Brahman Gods to Hindus. Bottled Cow Urine. UK Telegraph story
How long to end poverty in "Bharat"? 3 Centuries!
The Caliban of South Asia—an artificial state called Bharat (aka India)
Can Dalits and Muslims overcome tokenism and get real power in India?
